Lucas does Red Tails...

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by furbs

Don't forget the ship killing 50 cals

lol i almost cried when i saw that

[Strike]

Gah, actually the only recent video I thought had "believeable" air combat scenes was actually The Red Baron. It had some wicked manouvers I think would be difficult to pull off, but it also featured way more realistic parts than hollywoodized... Noone on earth can turn a mustang like he did in that movie :p noone. I can't even do that with my 800gram RC electric mustang. No sir.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Strike

Noone on earth can turn a mustang like he did in that movie :p noone. I can't even do that with my 800gram RC electric mustang. No sir.

It wasn't a turn. He was stalling at the top of a loop.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It wasn't a turn. He was stalling at the top of a loop.

yeah right...

you might have heard of torque at some point in your life, well mustangs come with buckets of it: at the top of a loop a Mustang (christ, even a T-6!) will tend to torque itself out of the upside down position, that tumble on top is mere sci-fi, unless you chopped your throttle on the way up, but then just a moron would do it, because you'd never reach the top, and surely you'd have enough momentum to make a mess of that. The mustang is an energy fighter, not an Extra 300..

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

yeah right...

you might have heard of torque at some point in your life, well mustangs come with buckets of it: at the top of a loop a Mustang (christ, even a T-6!) will tend to torque itself out of the upside down position, that tumble on top is mere sci-fi, unless you chopped your throttle on the way up, but then just a moron would do it, because you'd never reach the top, and surely you'd have enough momentum to make a mess of that. The mustang is an energy fighter, not an Extra 300..

You should go over the airshowbuzz and let that Mustang driver know where he got it wrong.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

You should go over the airshowbuzz and let that Mustang driver know where he got it wrong.

I don't need that David, thank you. You see, you're so narrow minded you think that any pilot out there that flies a warbird is a god, well you're very, very wrong. Some of them are good, some simply aren't, some other just like boasting improbable stuff just because, like you and me, are human beings.

NO warbird operator would ever attempt such manoeuvre, simply because it's beyond the edge of flight envelope, and frankly stupid, especially if you're flying a machine worth a couple of million dollars, which has a very temperamental torque, a laminar flow wing and a stall with no warning.

As a pilot of moderate experience and that also flies on warbirds, I can tell you that, again in my humble opinion and the one of other warbird operators (who commented on the trailer we watched together), that tumble is really unlikely to happen on a Mustang, and even if it did, it's probably cos the pilot screwed up big time: it's not a manoeuvre, it's a mistake.

Then again, feel free to believe in your reality.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I don't need that David, thank you. You see, you're so narrow minded you think that any pilot out there that flies a warbird is a god,

I don't think he's a god. I do think he knows more about what a 51 can do than do you.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

that tumble is really unlikely to happen on a Mustang, and even if it did, it's probably cos the pilot screwed up big time: it's not a manoeuvre, it's a mistake.

Or maybe it's a really desperate pilot hanging it out on the edge because he's got a really big pair?

I do find it humorous that your expert agrees that it could possibly happen, but I'm the one in the alternative reality...