Lucas does Red Tails...

[David Hayward]

You would think that a guy who flies P-51s pretty regularly would be the most upset about the unrealistic flight model in this 2 minute trailer. Oddly, he does not appear to be very upset. Maybe you P-51 experts should go over to ASB and set him straight about how a P-51 really performs.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

You would think that a guy who flies P-51s pretty regularly would be the most upset about the unrealistic flight model in this 2 minute trailer. Oddly, he does not appear to be very upset. Maybe you P-51 experts should go over to ASB and set him straight about how a P-51 really performs.

Seriously David, i dont for one second think you agree the clip where the P51 preforms a tie-fighter turn is accurate, so why are you trying to argue?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by furbs

Seriously David, i dont for one second think you agree the clip where the P51 preforms a tie-fighter turn is accurate, so why are you trying to argue?

Are you talking about the scene where the P-51 pulls out of a stall at the top of a loop and then shoots the wing off a 109262? I agree. That ruins the whole movie for me.

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Are you talking about the scene where the P-51 pulls out of a stall at the top of a loop and then shoots the wing off a 109262? I agree. That ruins the whole movie for me.

I think this is not the worst part. I suspect they went "lets put as much planes as possible into single frame, as that will look epic" way. Wing to wing escorts, planes flying inside enemy bomber formation, Me-262 flown like prop planes and so on.

[furbs]

David, nobody is saying the movie is ruined by the CGI, if you read my first post in this thread i said "If the film does justice to the story then ok il prob watch it and try to forget the P51 pulling a tie fighter turn and the rest of the awful CGI"

I can separate the story from the CGI, can you?

Who knows, the movie may still suck, or it might be great! but the CGI is to my mind not as good as it could be, and i think you agree.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by furbs

David, nobody is saying the movie is ruined by the CGI

You didn't bother to read this thread, did you? Go back and read post #3.

[furbs]

Ok most people are not. what about the rest of my post?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

You would think that a guy who flies P-51s pretty regularly would be the most upset about the unrealistic flight model in this 2 minute trailer. Oddly, he does not appear to be very upset. Maybe you P-51 experts should go over to ASB and set him straight about how a P-51 really performs.

Not necessarily. I showed the same trailer to another fella who regularly flies a P-51 Mustang here in the UK and at the infamous scene of the P-51 tumbling backwards he sniggered and said "a bit overdramatic, maybe you could do that in a Pitts". It screams Hollywood, that's the problem.

It's actually appalling to know that they spent so much time on research, trying to get things right, and then come out with this cartoonish thingie, but then again it wouldn't be the first time: the Gladiator was supposedly followed by experts on the Roman empire, still the whole thing was riddled with errors. Did it ruin it for me? Hell no! Loved the movie! Still, I know it won't be remembered for its accuracy.

The issue is that whenever we see a pair of wings we think "man this is gotta be accurate, since it talks about a niche subject!", but it's hardly ever the case. On the other hand, the maniacal job done by Spielberg & Co. for Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers and The Pacific probably spoilt us..

Bottomline, it's a shame to see that such a director fell in the cliche' of "we need to make this ridiculously spectacular to attract the crowds"..

Light years away from Dark Blue World, done on a infinitesimal budget part of this CGI monster.

[JG52Uther]

I think while film makers use CGI (understandable these days) we will always have planes doing what the director wants, rather than what planes can really do.
If you want realism,go to an airshow. If you want fantasy escapism, watch these sort of films.
The problem with us as an audience, most of us can tell when its not realistic.Most people who see this sort of film won't know, or care.

[furbs]

Spot on.

David do you fly online in COD yet?