Of all the 'niggling' damge model issues, this one is my greatest irritation :(

[furbs]

Originally Posted by palker4

Guys Krupi has been right all along what he says that wing on hurri is not attached to a fuselage at root but the root is a part of the fuselage and the skin is not continuous becouse the wing is composed of 2 parts conecte only by four bolts when these bolts breaks the entire wing will fly of leaving perfectly straight edge just look at the pictures Krupi posted or this cutaway or a scale model if you have one

There must be wires and other stuff in the join though right?

and even if the wing broke due to stress, there would be SOME damage as the wing flew off?

whats the other half of the wing like Krupi?

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by furbs

There must be wires and other stuff in the join though right?

and even if the wing broke due to stress, there would be SOME damage as the wing flew off?

whats the other half of the wing like Krupi?

The bits that fly of has a few cannon shells covering it

[palker4]

Entire wing is held by 4 bolts damage one or two of them and the wing will just fly away with none or very little damage to the edges or the skin of aircraft. If you look on pictures already posted in this thread you will see that if only an outer part of wing is shot of you will get shreded edges also with damaged wingspars

[furbs]

Agreed, but surly the wing is getting damaged by the shells on the way through the wing? and i still would like to see the other half of the wing, the bit that flew away.
Just to see if the break is clean there too.

[JG52Krupi]

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Like that?

Unfortunately I have uninstalled the mods so if you need a closer pic you have to wait until tomorrow

[Blackdog_kt]

After all the testing and screenshot's i'll have to say i'm with Krupi on this one.

I didn't know about the bolts but i was aware the Hurricane was the only aircraft in the sim having such clean wing breaks, as most of all the rest have a bit of a jagged edge.

Krupi's explanation makes sense to me because it's not necessary to damage the bolts directly: any kind of damage that significantly affects the distribution of airflow and aerodynamic forces on the wing has the potential to pull sideways at those bolts and have them snap.

I think i'll chalk this up to my "obscure features misunderstood for bugs/omissions" list and i really like to see how much attention to detail there is in the DMs. Best thing i've seen? Here's my top cases:

1) Running for home with a small fire on the left wing in a 110 (fuel tank got hit), the moment i slowed down to ditch the fire started spreading to the entire wing. In other words, airflow affects fires. I've also extinguished a burning aileron this way by diving.

2) The visible difference in propeller RPM (that blur effect) when an engine is damaged. Very cool to watch on multi-engined aircraft.

3) Trying to shoot down some Blenheims with a 109E-1, i saddled up behind one and surgically "disabled" the gunner. I then let them have the entire magazine, observing which parts are best to hit, which have no effect and so on. At some point, shooting at a spot a little behind the Blenheim's engine nacelle, i saw something flickering and thought it was a graphics glitch. I paused, cycled the external view to my target and could see nothing. Unpausing, i saw it again: a piece of metal in the wing skin was deformed upwards and flapping in the wind.


P.S. Good job on keeping the thread civil, this has been an informative one thus far

[JG52Krupi]

My god I have won an argument online

I do apologize for my first post it was rather blunt to put it mildly

I agree Blackdog, Luthier said that they were proud of the damage model and if the new aircraft have the same attention paid to them as the ones we currently have I just cannot wait to see a 190 with its engine panels blown away and a fantastic cockpit.