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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-30-2011, 01:11 PM
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I'll go just to see P40s in flight.

It is my favorite aircraft of all time after all.
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Old 07-30-2011, 01:21 PM
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I'd certainly watch it for the P-40's too. With Lucas at the helm, I would not expect expect a mature approach though. However I am sure there will be a exhaustive range of Red Tails toys available to go with the film.
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Old 07-30-2011, 01:52 PM
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Interesant the scene with the P-51 with Luftwaffe markings. About this time there was a lot of confussion and mistakes over Germany. Kozedub in his La-7 was engaged by P-51s and he shot down two of theses in self defense, some V-VS Yak-9s were also shot down by USAAF P-51s and at least one B-24 crossing the Oder line by mistake was shot down by Soviet fighters.
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Thank you for this information, didnt know it but now i will watch it when released

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Gents, I have to be honest and say I was quite looking forward to seeing this film, but sadly, after watching the trailer I felt complete dismay with one line that is to be used in the story and it appears in the trailer too.

At 32-seconds in one of the 15th Airforce Generals' is heard to say "I want Pilots who will look after the Bombers and not just think about themselves!" (or words very similar).

To be honest I my jaw fell and I was quite angry to hear that.

In the time I have been researching the history of the 325th I have heard many stories of Pilots putting their lives at risk to look after their 'Big Friends' and this insinuates that every Pilot was only interested in dogfighting rather than protecting their charges. I am sure 31stFG pilots will be just as upset to hear this huge generalisation that only the 332nd would and could do this.

To be honest I feel like boycotting this film fo such a slight against all the pilots (other than the 332nd) who took part in the MTO, as you can imagine I am quite angry about this.

Sadly, as always happens, Hollywood decides History is an inconvenience to a good story, wheras the actual story of the 332nd needs no assistance, it was incredible!

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Gents, I have to be honest and say I was quite looking forward to seeing this film, but sadly, after watching the trailer I felt complete dismay with one line that is to be used in the story and it appears in the trailer too.

At 32-seconds in one of the 15th Airforce Generals' is heard to say "I want Pilots who will look after the Bombers and not just think about themselves!" (or words very similar).

To be honest I my jaw fell and I was quite angry to hear that.

In the time I have been researching the history of the 325th I have heard many stories of Pilots putting their lives at risk to look after their 'Big Friends' and this insinuates that every Pilot was only interested in dogfighting rather than protecting their charges. I am sure 31stFG pilots will be just as upset to hear this huge generalisation that only the 332nd would and could do this.

To be honest I feel like boycotting this film fo such a slight against all the pilots (other than the 332nd) who took part in the MTO, as you can imagine I am quite angry about this.

Sadly, as always happens, Hollywood decides History is an inconvenience to a good story, wheras the actual story of the 332nd needs no assistance, it was incredible!

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While it would be wrong to discredit another Unit in any shape or form, try to keep two things in mind here. As we have proven in other posts on different subjects. Some of these Clips have been taken out of context. Also consider that, in some missions. This DID happen.

Its a crappy plot device to strip in down to assumptions of inability, or "want" to properly complete a mission. But again this isn't a movie about those other squadrons. Its about the 332nd.
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Ah,so here's where all you whiners are hiding!
I was already wondering............

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It's nice to see Cuba gooding do this role again.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:43 AM
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It looks like a 'message' movie set in WW2 more than a film about WW2.. Oh well, I'll probably watch it enjoy it for what it is and also enjoy pulling it to bits.

Also looks like another hollywood re-write of history for artistic reasons..

I think there's also a big nod to Star Wars in this, anyone else reminded of Porkins (from A New Hope) death when watching the trailer?

It is a Lucasarts film so it'll probably have references to other movies throughout... Like ET in the Ball turret of a B-17, or something..

I totally agree on the CGI being inertia-less, when is sombody going to do some CGI that looks like it has some weight to it?
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