Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

back the fishtruck up for a minute.


Lets see if i got this straight.


A sertain person with well known sentiments regarding this topic (pro modder) doesnt like where a sertain threadh is going or maby he knows its soon to be dead (Sound mod threadh) so the said person decides to start a new threadh (this one) where he ask (how polite) people to post proof, or how it actually is: to put up or shut up.

The said person then assumes the role of judge, jury (with the help of some trusted allies) and exicusioner, or moderator if u will (no offense intended towards real moderators) in examening and validating posted evidance. Nedless to say, nothing of the evidance posted (despite the surreal conditions under wich its done) is, in the end, valid. (what a shocker)

The well known pro modder puts up this "request" (how polite) here on 1C official forum as an added flavour.



Did i understand situation correctly?



Did we all move to the Twilight Zone and i missed the 1C announcement?


Maby someone went over the deep end......or lost theire marbels...or maby someone went over the deep end BECAUSE he lost his marbels?




BTW. Not intended as an insult...just a question (to avoid future missunderstandings)




P.S. Zapatista, u know it, i know it, heck even some modders know it, problem is that we are using way to many bigg words trying to explain how it in facts is...it only confuses the situation. Sad but true.

with spelling like that, i think big words are way out of your league.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

with spelling like that, i think big words are way out of your league.

Thx for confirming my thoughts.


Because if u dissegreed u would have come up with something better than that, right?



"Big words" in this case is a matter of oppinion, i agreee. I never thought words like "illigal", "no", "yes", "cheats" was big words...but apparently they are.



Thx again on the confirming part though.



BTW. Im bilingual with English as second language...how about u?

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

Thx for confirming my thoughts.


Because if u dissegreed u would have come up with something better than that, right?


Thx.



BTW. Im bilingual with English as second language...how about u?

no, i just said that as a way just returning the "idiot" mud throwing really. irritating isn't it?
the spelling is still off.
that lerche track posted shows it being used, it doesn't show anything else. and as someone else said this is an old cheat using a conf.ini exploit. so what i think uther was looking for was undeniable proof. this has not materialised. i think all uther wanted was osmething concrete as opposed to the hysterical "it's all cheating"

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

no, i just said that as a way just returning the "idiot" mud throwing really. irritating isn't it?
the spelling is still off.
that lerche track posted shows it being used, it doesn't show anything else. and as someone else said this is an old cheat using a conf.ini exploit. so what i think uther was looking for was undeniable proof. this has not materialised. i think all uther wanted was osmething concrete as opposed to the hysterical "it's all cheating"

So said person was "looking" for undenible proof, said person "wants" concrete evidance?

Pardon my less than perfect english (i know how it enoys u)...but i couldnt care less.


Doenst matter what kind of proof will be posted, there will allways be a "if" or "but" in there somewhere. I hope those with proof (me being one of them) will relize that in the next page or 2 so we can put this joke of a thredh to bed to. A joke, as in: never ending story.

Those with proof can show them where it actually matters, to Oleg for ex. so it can help him come up with a solution (not that i think it will happen). Maby post them over at Ubi zoo showing people what to look out for. Just a couple of examples.


BTW, Im still bilingual, with english as my second language...how about u?


Maby i can post in my native language and u can correct my spelling then to...mmm, how about it?

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

Pardon my less than perfect english (i know how it enoys u)...but i couldnt care less.


BTW, Im still bilingual, with english as my second language...how about u?


Maby i can post in my native language and u can correct my spelling then to...mmm, how about it?

doesn't sound like someone who couldn't care less.

as for the rest, it's simple. a fraps video showing modded files, showing version 4.08, showing log on to chkruntime=2 server, and showing in game cheating. fair enough if evidence is posted, just make it so holes can't be picked in it. the lerche "cheat" has been shown to be another factor, not the soundmod itself.
to put my position, all i have seen posted is that people have tried to use it in chkruntime=2 servers, as a test, and have failed. maybe some new files have come out, or whatever, but i have not seen those.
as for looking for the undeniable evidence... yeah i'd want that if i was being called scum. wouldn't you?

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

doesn't sound like someone who couldn't care less.

as for the rest, it's simple. a fraps video showing modded files, showing version 4.08, showing log on to chkruntime=2 server, and showing in game cheating. fair enough if evidence is posted, just make it so holes can't be picked in it. the lerche "cheat" has been shown to be another factor, not the soundmod itself.
to put my position, all i have seen posted is that people have tried to use it in chkruntime=2 servers, as a test, and have failed. maybe some new files have come out, or whatever, but i have not seen those.
as for looking for the undeniable evidence... yeah i'd want that if i was being called scum. wouldn't you?

"Doesnt sound like someone who couldnt care less"?....the me couldnt care less part is me not posting proof here of all places.


And as i said, there will allways be a "if" or a "but". Someone could show tracks of cheating saying "i was there doing it" (wich someone allredy did). and there woould still be "ifs" and "buts" (we allredy seen thoose) ..so whats the point.


U say the Lerche cheat has been proven to be somethingelse than sound mod cheat.....where was that proven?


Must have missed that part.


Checkruntime=2 has been said to stop only the complete novice, nothing more.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by Baron

"Doesnt sound like someone who couldnt care less"?....the me couldnt care less part is me not posting proof here of all places.


And as i said, there will allways be a "if" or a "but". Someone could show tracks of cheating saying "i was there doing it" (wich someone allredy did). and there woould still be "ifs" and "buts" (we allredy seen thoose) ..so whats the point.


U say the Lerche cheat has been proven to be somethingelse than sound mod cheat.....where was that proven?


Must have missed that part.


Checkruntime=2 has been said to stop only the complete novice, nothing more.

it "has been said" but not shown. as for the rest, well apparently the lerche is done by messing with the conf.ini file.
the posted track just shows a lerche in a server, not the version used (i believe 4.05 is easier to change critical files), not the server security settings, nothing other than it being used. it is out of context, and that's what makes it really little else than a standard to gather around for anyone who has already convinced themselves.

want to prove it? post a fraps vid of all the steps, that will cover any doubt.
if you're worried about posting a cheat tutorial, well... according to you there is no need for a tutorial, is there? everyone is doing it already.

and zap, well i didn't read that bit so could you post me a link - always good to have the information. as for intelligence to do it... well, actually looking for it is more of a factor. i guess you're on there more than i am. hey! here's an idea, why don't you do the fraps vid, seeing as you have access.
as for the kiddie thing... well recent poll shows the average age to be pushing into the thirties. there may be other forums you are referring to but i guess that's the only one you've managed to find so far.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by Baron

So said person was "looking" for undenible proof, said person "wants" concrete evidance?

Pardon my less than perfect english (i know how it enoys u)...but i couldnt care less.


Doenst matter what kind of proof will be posted, there will allways be a "if" or "but" in there somewhere. I hope those with proof (me being one of them) will relize that in the next page or 2 so we can put this joke of a thredh to bed to. A joke, as in: never ending story.

Those with proof can show them where it actually matters, to Oleg for ex. so it can help him come up with a solution (not that i think it will happen). Maby post them over at Ubi zoo showing people what to look out for. Just a couple of examples.


BTW, Im still bilingual, with english as my second language...how about u?


Maby i can post in my native language and u can correct my spelling then to...mmm, how about it?

Ok, this is so damn stupid! Someone claims to have proof, the acussed asks to see said proof, the one with proof says "I have it, but I don't think I'll show you". I'm sorry but if you say you have proof and don't produce it then that makes you a liar! I've tried to stay out of these threads because they are going nowhere but this was too much to ignore, I mean the nerve! I can't beleive you actually have the nerve to claim "I have proof" and then when asked to show it for the world to see you are right you say" ummm welll, I have proof but I...I don't wanna show it...", That if fecking insane!!!

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

Ok, this is so damn stupid! Someone claims to have proof, the acussed asks to see said proof, the one with proof says "I have it, but I don't think I'll show you". I'm sorry but if you say you have proof and don't produce it then that makes you a liar! I've tried to stay out of these threads because they are going nowhere but this was too much to ignore, I mean the nerve! I can't beleive you actually have the nerve to claim "I have proof" and then when asked to show it for the world to see you are right you say" ummm welll, I have proof but I...I don't wanna show it...", That if fecking insane!!!

Did u even read earlier posts? Especially those made by myselfe?


Please, god, dont make me repeat myselfe again.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

Ok, this is so damn stupid! Someone claims to have proof, the acussed asks to see said proof, the one with proof says "I have it, but I don't think I'll show you". I'm sorry but if you say you have proof and don't produce it then that makes you a liar! I've tried to stay out of these threads because they are going nowhere but this was too much to ignore, I mean the nerve! I can't beleive you actually have the nerve to claim "I have proof" and then when asked to show it for the world to see you are right you say" ummm welll, I have proof but I...I don't wanna show it...", That if fecking insane!!!

Thanks Urufu,it is all I ever wanted.But it is useless,it is not worth the abuse to try and put your point of view across.Best to stay out of the threads now,and let them say what they want.At the end of the day its not really important compared to what is happening in the real world is it.
Today I learned that a friend of mine had his leg blown off this week in Iraq fighting terrorists.THAT is important.This is not.