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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-26-2011, 02:49 PM
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BTW, it's not that I don't want to know anything, it's that it makes no difference whether I know anything. The update will be ready when it's ready. It will fix whatever it fixes. There is no way I can change any of that, so what real difference does it make if I know the details?
While I understand what you're saying and such, I also find myself disagreeing. Yes, I cannot make a difference as to what they're working on, but I'd like to know what to look forward to regardless. If nothing else than to boost my patience-meter and not wipe CLoD off my disks until it's in a more playable state than it currently is.

Can 1C become better in the field of dev-to-Player communication? Of course they can. Yet I find myself understanding why they don't bother, since any and every single post by Luthier finds him under fire for just about any- and everything. If they say they're working on the sounds, people will wail about the flightmodels. If they work on performance-issues, people will wail about the AI. So regardless of what they do, they're damned and will come under fire. Some will say that such is the life of a software-dev, but seriously, can you blame them for not communicating when all they get is a deluge of sewage and manure coming in at mach 4-speeds horizontally?
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:55 PM
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Yes, I cannot make a difference as to what they're working on, but I'd like to know what to look forward to regardless. If nothing else than to boost my patience-meter and not wipe CLoD off my disks until it's in a more playable state than it currently is.
If you're (not "you" specifically) going to spend your days (for month after month after month) complaining that the devs are not keeping you up to date on their progress (even as they keep posting progress reports), then another progress report really isn't going to change anything. (this isn't directed at you, but that is the general theme of this board)

Would I like to know? Sure. Do I need to know? Not even a little.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:59 PM
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David, you understand that people want different things?
and that people think differently to you?

The reason i ask is, if you was in a online sqd, i would bet you would have people who you could talk to in person(TS,Vent).
And talking to them instead of posting here you might think differently.

Over the last few days ive been flying and chatting online with Krupi, we used to disagree about a few things on here but after chatting we get along just fine.

Do you have Teamspeak 2?

Edit. that goes to Baron, Frey or anyone else that thinks im a moaning whining malcontent.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:05 PM
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David, you understand that people want different things?
and that people think differently to you?
I'm not sure why that matters? We have seen regular updates and they all end up with people complaining.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:08 PM
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I know, its just i dont get why you object so much, how does it affect you?

So do you have TS 2? lets talk.

Oh im in =BKHZ= online sqd
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:14 PM
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I know, its just i dont get why you object so much, how does it affect you?
The only thing I object to is all the whining in here. It affects me because it makes this board unreadable. No amount of talking is going to change that.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:22 PM
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Unreadable? come on now, is that the only reason?
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:23 PM
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@david

I entirely agree but we should be getting some sort of info, communication is at the heart of all relationships and it the same for this forum.
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We have seen regular updates and they all end up with people complaining.
When did you read the last development update? Did I miss something?

More than with a month before, on 24th June we got last patch. One week later, on 1th July we meet the team (no update), 20 (!) day later Luthier welcomed the American customers (no update, without a word to the others (older) customers), and after that, yesterday we got luthier last post (you call it dev update?).

But nothing would be a trouble if the product, which was sold to us, would be perfect. But this attitude is – with a mildest word – annoying for the person who got used to a western customer service.

A thought to the end. The VO101 sqn existing since 1999, we have 17 active members currently, who play regularly after IL-2 (A-10, ROF, Arma, WoT, ect). To say potential COD customers.
From the 17 men 5 people who bought the game. Two people was it totally given up, two of them playing 1-2 times per month. And I am playing alone weekly. This not representative statistics i know, but I would not be surprised if similar numbers would be calculated in other old squads (i know the other hungarian saquads, there is the same, or worse).

And this very rough.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:16 PM
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When did you read the last development update? Did I miss something?
It was yesterday.
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