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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Acccuracy and preference for moded vs current tracers
I think we should immediately use the "new" tracers. 19 14.18%
I think with some more work the "new" tracers should be used. 50 37.31%
Indifferent to the tracer effects/possible effects. 35 26.12%
I like the current tracers. 30 22.39%
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:04 AM
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I have to agree with the lack of tracer quality on the game. I have seen tracers fired in real world settings, I have shot them myself watching them go out. My first impression with these in the game was WTF? They look cheap, lazy, and ridiculous. They leave too fast, and appear to move in a perfectly straight line outward. No convergence what soever of ballistic drop. I tried aiming high at a bomber to ark and compensate for bullet drop....no need, they flew straight like lasers. I simply has to point and fire. Firing weapons my whole life including machine guns, I was puzzled and confused by the lack of balletic physics that appear in COD. Also, the tracers leave and at about 100 yards out and magically vanish into nothing. I hate to say it, but this is a sad excuse for tracers and seriously makes the game look as if they put something in for a temporary marker while testing and forgot to fix it.


I know a lot of you on here think they supposedly look "authentic", but having fired automatic weapons with tracers.....um, no...they look like crap and sound like crap.

Before I hear a bunch of fan boys trying to chastise me, I have been playing sims for over 20 years and am an avid support of maddox. I own the complete Il-2 series and have loved them, this is why I showed my support and bough a 50 dollar game with a POOR 2.0 average rating from all the user and professional critic reviews and websites. I figured they will work all this out, but some stuff is really bad. You have to call a spade a spade.

When I buy a new Il-2 game, and I find myself booting up 1946 to play when I have COD staring me on the shelf....yeah they really screwed the pooch. Hyper lobby if full of Il-2 hardcore gamers loading up 1946 despite the fact COD is out. That says a lot right there.
Can I ask you what calibre and "real world settings" you used when shooting tracers man?
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:19 AM
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Can I ask you what calibre and "real world settings" you used when shooting tracers man?
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That is very strange when so many RL experienced posters still have very different opinions regarding COD's tracers...
There is no concensus , even among all of those who shot so many types of calibers in various conditions...

Still waiting for better tracers...

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Old 07-23-2011, 12:03 PM
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Ok...My last post
That is very strange when so many RL experienced posters still have very different opinions regarding COD's tracers...
There is no concensus , even among all of those who shot so many types of calibers in various conditions...

Still waiting for better tracers...

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You are speculating,since different calibres behave in different ways,hence my question.
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The only way to get everyone on the same page is to have them all come together to a single physical location and witness many different machine guns shooting both day and night. Then everyone can base their opinions on what their eyes actually see and not base their thoughts on the many different variables that different cameras, displays etc can produce.
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That is very strange when so many RL experienced posters still have very different opinions regarding COD's tracers...

SAlute !
that's probably because of lot of them have no real life experience except for hollywood... and believe just sounding knowledgeable makes it a fact
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that's probably because of lot of them have no real life experience except for hollywood... and believe just sounding knowledgeable makes it a fact
..how is this post supposed to help exactly? Is there any need for this flaming?
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that's probably because of lot of them have no real life experience except for hollywood... and believe just sounding knowledgeable makes it a fact


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With all due respect,I think people could express an opinion on this matter ONLY if they saw tracers in real life. Lying about it is just silly and counterproductive me thinks.


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..how is this post supposed to help exactly? Is there any need for this flaming?

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I stumbled upon this vid today. It shows tracers during the day and at night from the same vantage point on a LAV.
The cameraman pans around during the shooting and I believe this give the best impression yet of what tracers really do look like as the camera seems to record very close to what the human eye sees or at least what my eyes have seen.

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I one you all for get is that all of the modern weapon that are shot are showing shots that are over 1500m or more were in the game most shot are only 300m to 500m so they look a lot faster, also tracer and incendiary round in modern armament is a lot different to what was in 1942 and they burn brighter and longer.


Here footage from spit in ww2 and you ahev trouble seeing the tracer rounds



this one from P51 and you don't see a lot of trcer rounds

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I stumbled upon this vid today. It shows tracers during the day and at night from the same vantage point on a LAV.
The cameraman pans around during the shooting and I believe this give the best impression yet of what tracers really do look like as the camera seems to record very close to what the human eye sees or at least what my eyes have seen.

Gimme THAT in COD , with a faint smoke trail and I will be VERY happy...!

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