One explanation and we will stop whining

Originally Posted by Sammi79

And herein lies the problem. Why should any of your 'demands' be satisfied pray tell? you know these guys personally I take it, you certainly seem to think that you know exactly what duties Luthiers job involves. Or maybe you work for UBIsoft or even 1C?

Quite honestly if the thread title bore any shred of truth all you victims of virtual rights abuses would probably have received an answer by now, but by continuing with the feet stamping and immature ranting you are highlighting the fact that none of you 'deserve' the slightest bit of communication. Its so irritating I'm starting to hope that they don't ever fix it, just imagining the sore expressions on your faces is keeping me amused. Every single thread wether it starts off humerous, critical or whatever is being continuously trolled be a minority of users who in my forum would be banned, its not about human rights, its about it being my forum and my rules. Maybe you feel that would be wrong and unfair ? good. I would be pleased to know I had caused such poorly mannered people some discomfort, would feel like I'd been doing my part. The moderators here are truly very tolerant to let this all go on, I applaud them for I personally would be unable to be so. They are truly calmer and more objective people than me - I guess thats why they are moderators.

Just to emphasise my point about the falsity of OP statement, Luthier posted an update with the American release and did the level of the wailing even dip for a moment? No. Thankfully he had the foresight to lock that thread. I've been ignoring for a week or so in the vain hope that the vitriol dies down but no. Well surprised is something i am not. Go ahead then tear up my post, stamp your feet, gnash your teeth and try to insult and belittle me in the most intelligent way you can.

Everything what you wrote is based on wrong assumption - Luthier's so called update post...

First of all, the most important FACT(!!) - he did not post any "update" related to any known bug or defects. Or did he? Who is the master here? You, carguy or David Haywarth or any other uncritical fanboys? Or is it Luthier? Or is it angry, ignored CUSTOMERS? What is moving people like you or carguy to react to what they hate - whinning? Why they dont just dont ignore it, as so called "whinners" are ignored by Luthier?

We have in czech language a nice old saying - "do the devil good and he will pay you with hell" - you can be feeling better that on this forum is no more whinning threads, but still you will have a bugfest game installed on your PC. And you can just uninstall it and wait. Or leave it and play other games. Because you don't feel you are the guy who can put some stress on them. You should be demanding. Not just robbed and silenced like stupid sheep.

Who did not deliver his part of the agreement between customer and developer?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Who did not deliver his part of the agreement between customer and developer?

I don't care. Go to court if you think you were cheated.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I don't care. Go to court if you think you were cheated.

Why should I - the best place to warn other people how they will be treated after they pay, is HERE...

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Why should I - the best place to warn other people how they will be treated after they pay, is HERE...

In other words, you are just a troll. I look forward to your next banning.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

In other words, you are just a troll. I look forward to your next banning.

no I am not a troll... And you are reported now!

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Who did not deliver his part of the agreement between customer and developer?

If you think the devs did not, you are wrong. Otherwise you can prove it in court and get your money back. But you know you can not and that is why you whine here.

The devs delivered much more than many expected and much more than other company on the market in this segment. Maybe it is not enough for you but than it is your own mistake that you purchased the game. Take responsibility for your decisions or go to court if you feel cheated. There you will learn that you were not.

Originally Posted by Ataros

If you think the devs did not, you are wrong. Otherwise you can prove it in court and get your money back. But you know you can not and that is why you whine here.

The devs delivered much more than many expected and much more than other company on the market in this segment. Maybe it is not enough for you but than it is your own mistake that you purchased the game. Take responsibility for your decisions or go to court if you feel cheated. There you will learn that you were not.

What? OK, one example - Dynamic weather... one more - engine supporting thousands planes over Channel... hmmm... sounds? hmmm... multicore CPU support? SLI? Hillarious... Are you kidding? Luthier confirmed by himself he knew, game had a serious flaws even before 1st release. But this did not stop him to sell the game like finished... He took all responsibilities for this. So what you talking about?

I am just trying to say that customers made their part of the agreement. They paid... Some even twice... or more...