IL2 and Sound Modding

[CKY_86]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

To those who question Crazy Ivan's credibility on seeing hacked aircraft, I can only say that there are few people that I trust more to give honest answers than him. Like I said, go register over at Warbirds of Prey and ask the administrators, they have tracks. My squadmates have seen various things online as well that are way outside any expected behavior, and I assure you they are some of the most trustworthy folks I have ever met.

The Hack is being used to cheat online, sorry if this fact doesn't fit in with your short sighted modder's agenda.

As I said in my other post, proof would give your argument much more weight, such as in pictures or videos.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by CKY_86

As I said in my other post, proof would give your argument much more weight, such as in pictures or videos.

And "we" have to prove anything because..........?



"We" can present tons of evidance...wont make one bit of differance to the hackers.



And yes....even me who never think "cheat" when i play online have seen some pretty wierd stuff online lately, stuff that do not fall under the universal "lag" explenation.

[JG52Uther]

I can post many tracks with no cheating on them,as I record EVERY online flight I make.
Please post your tracks with cheating on them as I would be very interested in seeing them.
Thanks.

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

I can post many tracks with no cheating on them,as I record EVERY online flight I make.
Please post your tracks with cheating on them as I would be very interested in seeing them.
Thanks.

The reason a lot of us don't record unless its necessary is because it lags the online game. Unless myself and others have been wrong for years.

[JG52Uther]

Well surely these days it is neccessary.Sorry I come from online wars where everyone records tracks of their missions.

[Sunchaser]

Ya know, I think it is time for all those claiming cheating to actually prove same.

Some seem to think a simple statement of "cheating is rampant online" makes it so and I have not seen a single claimant offer proof.

I use the sound mod and have tried to join no mod servers with check runtime2 in their game description, not to cheat but to see if it works and it does, I cannot join.

Baron, you are not obliged to do anything but if I claim cheating and I have the means to prove it, I would.

[123-Wulf-123]

The hackers as usual have got this point about "proof" arse about face.

1. They have to prove to the legal community that no-one is altering the FM/DM files (which believe me is EASY to do).

2. They have to prove that no-one is "tweaking" the FMs just enough to give them a distinct advantage which is difficult to both see and prove.

3. They have to prove that no-one is flying with no cockpit and or 6dof in cockpit on servers.

4. They have to prove that no-one is making friendly a/c camouflaged and enemy flourescent.


5. How many more of the hacks open to the hackers shall I post?


6. No-one has "proven" ANYTHING about the EULA other than it is a legally compliant article, there are NO court appointed judges in this forum with the legal authority to make ANY judgement about legally binding contracts.

7. It is not for the legal members of the community to prove ANYTHING, it is for the illegal hackers to prove their arguments that their hack does not enable them to cheat PERIOD.



You guys are talking BS and you know it, while its easy to see the obvious hackers with ultra-uberised FMs (and there are PLENTY), its the sneaky buggers using the "slightly tweaked" FM and the visibility hacks that are killing the legal game for sure, and strangely you hackers tend to avoid discussing those particular hacks....I wonder why?

[JG52Uther]

Well as said I have not seen any cheating in the servers I play on.As people said they have proof,it follows that we would like to see it.
Don't know whats wrong with that polite request.

[Sunchaser]

Originally Posted by 123-Wulf-123

The hackers as usual have got this point about "proof" arse about face.

1. They have to prove to the legal community that no-one is altering the FM/DM files (whis believe me is EASY to do).

2. They have to prove that no-one is "tweaking" the FMs just enough to give them a distinct advantage which is difficult to both see and prove.

3. They have to prove that no-one is flying with no cockpit and or 6dof in cockpit on servers.

4. They have to prove that no-one is making friendly a/c camouflaged and enemy flourescent.


5. How many more of the hacks open to the hackers shall I post?



You guys are talking BS and you know it, while its easy to see the obvious hackers with ultra-uberised FMs (and there are PLENTY), its the sneaky buggers using the "slightly tweaked" FM and the visibility hacks that are killing the legal game for sure, and strangely you hackers tend to avoid discussing those particular hacks....I wonder why?

Those subtle hacks have been available since before the sound mod and other things it made available arrived, the vendetta you are on arrived with it.

Where was all the outrage before?

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by Baron

And "we" have to prove anything because..........?



"We" can present tons of evidance...wont make one bit of differance to the hackers.



And yes....even me who never think "cheat" when i play online have seen some pretty wierd stuff online lately, stuff that do not fall under the universal "lag" explenation.

what a pitiful dodge.....