IL2 Expansion coming in September???

[adonys]

Originally Posted by desastersoft

Thank You Tiger !

For clearence:
Fighter Aces! Helmut Wick vs. J. C. Dundas is a Campaign Add On in tradition of our IL2 Add On Series ( we made 7 Campaign Add Ons for the IL2 Series, most of them in German Language only) Fighter Aces Series is now continued in CloD....

There's nothing wrong with any kind of 3rd party campaigns / addons to IL2 CoD, on contrary.

The only thing I say is that the price is way too high considering what you guys are offering. Maybe I would pay 5 to 10 euros for the package content you mentioned, but in no way more than that.

Anyway, it's a free world, and you can ask whatever price you consider for it, same as I am free to pay whatever cost I think it is fair.

Good luck!

[desastersoft]

Originally Posted by adonys

There's nothing wrong with any kind of 3rd party campaigns / addons to IL2 CoD, on contrary.

The only thing I say is that the price is way too high considering what you guys are offering. Maybe I would pay 5 to 10 euros for the package content you mentioned, but in no way more than that.

Anyway, it's a free world, and you can ask whatever price you consider for it, same as I am free to pay whatever cost I think it is fair.

Good luck!

Amazons price is not the price we earn, budy ....
Some seem to forget that. And i doubt, tht you can produce it such for 5-10 Euro, realy ...

Such Add On is work of 4 People for now 5 Months.

But as you mentoined: Free World and nobody is beaten to buy it. Most we sell to our Fans of our Series. We don´t get rich with it, believe me .

cheers
Thomas

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by desastersoft

But as you mentoined: Free World and nobody is beaten to buy it. Most we sell to our Fans of our Series. We don´t get rich with it, believe me .

cheers
Thomas

My credit card is waiting...
Thanks for your efforts.

[adonys]

nobody is saying those campaigns are not good, they might even be the greatest campaigns ever made (even tough I highly doubt it, considering what I've saw in the demo, il2cod user made campaigns are easily way better than that).

point is, we've paid like 40 euros or something for the FULL IL2CoD game (I've paid like 50 for my collector's edition). that includes a 3D engine, client-server architecture, dedicated server, AI, FM & DM, plane modelling& texturing, terrain modelling & texturing, FMB, mission scripting engine, 2 campaigns and some missions, GUI, sound engine and sounds and so on..

and you are asking 30 euros for 3 campaigns (because the other 3 are the same, just with less planes/vehicles) and some texturing, and call it a fair trade?!!

whoever is so fool to pay that price for them, be my guest, we're in a free world.

but to come in here, and claim that is a fair price for what the user would get in exchange is simply outrageous! have you no shame, or you consider us so stupid, that we can't even grasp the insult?!!

is not our problem that you can't reduce the costs, as it would not be our problem if someone would want to sell us a 1 euro bread for 100 because "those were his costs". I am totally for 3rd party IL2CoD development, but at a fair price in exchange for what we're offered, if you want to sell more than a few units..

even more, economics also learn us that fooling 100 individuals to pay those waay overpriced 30 euros would earn you less in the end than sell it to a few thousands individuals (which is the real potential market target for Il2 CoD 3rd party addons at this time) for a fair price which should be 5-10 euros.. it's a simple math..

and in the end, we want respect, same as we're offering. you can come, and present us your offer, and we can give you our feedback, and buy it if we find it a good trade and if we want to. but please, do not insult us or our intelligence with claims like the above.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by adonys

..................and you are asking 30 euros for 3 campaigns (because the other 3 are the same, just with less planes/vehicles) ...................

sounds different:
"6 Campaigns in two Versions: Low (for low end Computers) and High (for medium and power mashines)

Fighter Aces! Major Helmut Wick - 25+ Missions
Fighter Aces! Flight Lieutenant J. C. Dundas - 13 Missions
No. 609 Squadrons - Spitfire - 42 Missions
No. 111 Squadron - Hurricanes - 27+ Missions
Erprobungsgruppe 210 - ME 110 - Fighter Bombers over England - 30 Missions
3./JG 2 "Richthofen - Bf 109 - 40 Missions"

for me its actually 6 campaigns , each of them has a heavy and light version.

[adonys]

yes, my mistake, they seem indeed to be six, if that's the case, but this fact doesn't change the dates of the problem at all

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by adonys

..................... of the problem at all

that should be the decission of everyone of his own IMHO

one knows what one gets, one knows the price - one can decide. Dont understand the 'fuss' about it ?!

and if one is able to find a better offline experiece for free, the better it is !

[robtek]

About the prices, just imaging what the costs are to print a "small" number of maps and manuals,
adding to that the production costs for the box and the dvd and many hours of research and taming the fmb.
Then this price isn't too high if you want to reenact the history.
To fly all this missions takes you longer than to play the sp-part of a more expensive fps, so more fun for the money.
There might be free missions, but usually without a proper researched and documented background.

[adonys]

As you say. I'm not saying you want to get rich through it (even if you might want to), or that the costs and needed human power aren't what you are saying (even if though it doesn't seem like).

I'm just saying that the final outcome, which is a series of (static) missions, of the quality as seen from the demo, are not worth more than 5-10 euros. You are asking for it (again, a few static missions and some skins) 30 euros, which is roughly as the cost of the game itself, which is a thing I find, excuse my frankness, outrageous.