Communication poll

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think that useless polls like this may be one reason why we've been getting less communication from Luthier lately. Regardless of what he says, it always ends up with the same old whiners making the same old whine. What part of 'if you don't like CloD you don't have to visit the forum' is so hard to understand?

ParaB may be right - a textbook case of how not to deal with customers. Instead, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

Great post.

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think that useless polls like this may be one reason why we've been getting less communication from Luthier lately. Regardless of what he says, it always ends up with the same old whiners making the same old whine. What part of 'if you don't like CloD you don't have to visit the forum' is so hard to understand?

ParaB may be right - a textbook case of how not to deal with customers. Instead, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

What a load of toss, Luthier was thick skinned enough to release a game in alpha state, and he has posted here since release when he knows that we all know half the stuff he told us during development was blatent lying i.e the game didn't run well at the Russian show because the PC's only had 2GB of ram. So im sure us having a dig about communication isnt going to ruin his nights sleep.

[furbs]

carguy wrote

Once more that idiotic logic. No, that`s not liking or loving the game as you put it. The only right user approach now is waiting patiently for the game to be fixed, in the meantime not posting worthless rants on how you`re losing your faith bs. If those whiners did want the best for CloD, they wouldn`t spread false info of it being unplayable. That`s killing sales with the word of mouth.


No...whats killing COD is bad reviews of a broken product, if COD worked all the "whines" would go away.

The US release is on the 19th, and the sound is broken in MP. thats the problem carguy.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Crane

What a load of toss, Luthier was thick skinned enough to release a game in alpha state, and he has posted here since release when he knows that we all know half the stuff he told us during development was blatent lying i.e the game didn't run well at the Russian show because the PC's only had 2GB of ram. So im sure us having a dig about communication isnt going to ruin his nights sleep.

This guy is right.

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

ParaB may be right - a textbook case of how not to deal with customers. Instead, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

Apples and oranges. I am very patient when it comes to sim development. I fully understand the problems of developing a niche product with often very limited funds and a fickle customer base. Honest communication is the key in such cases. The guys at Battlefont, eSimGames, DCS and NeoQB/777 studios know how to interact with their customers.

Luthier&Co's communication with their customers OTOH seems only slightly better than their abysmal project management.

I still try to see the positive side though: it can only get better.

[Pudfark]

Even Pea Wii Herman was more forthcoming....

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

, perhaps they should have taken the usual games industry approach, and said next-to-nothing before the release, and even less afterwards. I'm sure if I was in Luthier's position I'd wish I had.

Valid point other than this wasn't released in the usual game industry standard now was it? your point there stands no ground whatsoever

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think that useless polls like this may be one reason why we've been getting less communication from Luthier lately..

Andy, could you please turn this into a poll? I'ld vote 'Yes!'

[Ze-Jamz]

Well I expected it to have a delayed message by now for the US release so I'm guessing it is actually being released then?

On that point we will have the new patch the day before or the day on release via steam, no Beta.

So I think we should wait a while before we carry on arguing.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I think that useless polls like this may be one reason why we've been getting less communication from Luthier lately. Regardless of what he says, it always ends up with the same old whiners making the same old whine. What part of 'if you don't like CloD you don't have to visit the forum' is so hard to understand?

I missed this first time round! that's sarcasm right Andy?