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Old 07-16-2011, 03:09 AM
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if German invade Britain (operation sealion), they cannot do Operation Barbarossa (invasion of Balkans, Greece, Russia, Ukraine, and continue to middle east)
Not so much men and planes.
Anyway, the FockeWulf FW190A-4 fighter-bomber was not ready for any of boot operation. And they don't have so much FW200 for cover the extreme north objectives over Britain (factory and airfields) , and this include his escort, that need to be Bf109 E-7/Bf109 F-2 and FW190.
Another, ... German never recognized Finland like a allied (at least, to 1941), big mistake. This people are a very good fighters and excellent organized and good Ethic too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea_Lion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

pleace, traduce this site, is in spanish
http://www.militar.org.ua/foro/what-...27395-810.html

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Old 07-16-2011, 12:20 PM
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According to Avalon-Hill back in the late 70's, the Finnish military were probably the most elite on average in the world. Their regulars were as good as the elite troops of others. They just did not have enough in the long run.

But from Nazi view, are all or any Finns Arayan?
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:52 PM
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Anyways...?

I do not have to read the reat of this thread to see the usual posts

Fact is. The World would most definetly have changed if Germany had not tried to invade Russia and concentrated its efforts on defeating Britain.

After that.(If Germany had succeded) The World was there to be taken.

Access to the Strongest Navy/No Island carrier for US. aircraft/An ability to strike against Russia... Whenever?(USA would not support Russia so easily.)
Africa would easily be Nazi conquered. Due to the unavailability of UK to access to US. Military aid.

USA would be totally isolated from the rest of the World. And therfore be liable for invasion from both East and West once Russia was conquered, in time.(As opposed to Hitler time?)Remember USA would be alone against the Japanese who would also be able to attack Russia.Since UK colonies would be under the control of the German government.

BoB. Surely was. The biggest turning point in WW2.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:59 PM
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BoB. Surely was. The biggest turning point in WW2.
In a way it was but not directly. BoB got downprioritized by Germany prior to the Soviet campaign. Before you say " Yes it was, BoB turned the war!!", look into the amount of resources Germany sent to the Eastern front and how much of that was lost. No German soldier ever sat foot on British soil. They lost some aircrafts and pilots but an airforce is roughly just 1/3 of a fully operating war force, and they also put more aircrafts and pilots in to invade Soviet. The winning tactic of the Reich was using Luftwaffe as support, not a spearhead.

If I were to say which was the earliest most decisive factor which brought Germany and Luftwaffe to a halt, I'd have to say the Russian winter 1941-1942.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:55 PM
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According to Avalon-Hill back in the late 70's, the Finnish military were probably the most elite on average in the world. Their regulars were as good as the elite troops of others. They just did not have enough in the long run.

But from Nazi view, are all or any Finns Arayan?
They had Belgium's Congo earmarked for us.
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Old 07-17-2011, 12:12 AM
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In Hitler's future world only blond hair blue eye Arayans would populate the world which shows a (/another) major blind spot in him and followers as Der Fuerer did not fit the profile and should have been shot right from the start!
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:53 AM
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In Hitler's future world only blond hair blue eye Arayans would populate the world which shows a (/another) major blind spot in him and followers as Der Fuerer did not fit the profile and should have been shot right from the start!
It was blond hair OR blue eyes. Hitler had the eyes.

He was a twit, certainly, but he was a blue eyed twit.
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Old 07-17-2011, 05:58 AM
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It was blond hair OR blue eyes. Hitler had the eyes.

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Really? i never knew this...i always thought it was "blond hair blue eyed people" meaning both?
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:23 PM
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Really? i never knew this...i always thought it was "blond hair blue eyed people" meaning both?
It was either or both.
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