IL2 and Sound Modding

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by Billfish

Well, it has become abundantly clear the end goal regarding these hacks for some is to "level their playing field".....Though in truth gain a bit of an edge. Justifying something giving one an advantage because "bob has more money then I, therefor possibly better equipment, therefor I can do "X" as it brings me to par" is a poor reason/excuse.

SV/ How so? you give no reason whatsoever for that opinion, you just ask us to accept this nonsense as is. No, I just put these examples out to show that the field wasn't level to begin with BF. Never has been. Btw, you have not answered my question either. Which would you prefer. A game with no mods or a sub-par low end system? Indeed, some il-2 on-line pilots cheat and they use their wallet to do it. There is no habicapping function in the game to fix that either.

Originally Posted by Billfish

Best part is it clearly states that anything to no matter what degree is not off limits. As today it's just to get to a "believed par", tomorrow because you had a bad night so tweak it up a bit more to be at your believed par....and in time you're naturally just the ace of aces due to your superior skills, as naturally everyone else is doing the same..

Sorry....Fact of the matter is I'm probably at the low end as far as equipment.....and to be blunt, I hold my own and then some against those with 2 of everything and all top end...

SV/ Yes, indeed that is what the modders all intend to do.. Quote your system and we will see how low it is. How does your fps do when you have a sky full of planes? If your low end system was anything like mine when there were too many players it got very slow. It did pretty well when only a few players were playing though. How about your internet connection too?

However Stalkervision, you do state the case for NOT allowing mods quite well whether you realized it or not.

Sv/ Hardly and where you have gotten that completely wacko idea I have no idea whatsoever..

You keep worrying your little mind about all these spurious little mind affecting mods BF. I just hope BOBSOW comes out before you blow a fuse over them..

[WTE_Goanna]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

A game with no mods or a sub-par low end system? Indeed, some il-2 on-line pilots cheat and they use their wallet to do it. There is no habicapping function in the game to fix that either.

This definition of the word cheat from an online dictionary; http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cheat

cheat /tʃit/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[cheet] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object)
1. to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
2. to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
3. to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.
–verb (used without object)
4. to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
5. to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
6. to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.
7. Informal. to be sexually unfaithful (often fol. by on): Her husband knew she had been cheating all along. He cheated on his wife.
–noun
8. a person who acts dishonestly, deceives, or defrauds: He is a cheat and a liar.
9. a fraud; swindle; deception: The game was a cheat.
10. Law. the fraudulent obtaining of another's property by a pretense or trick.
11. an impostor: The man who passed as an earl was a cheat.

Please explain to a oblivious, native Australian how anyone who has more money in their wallet to spend on a game/game accessories than someone else is a cheat.

Cheers

Goanna

[GOZR]

Why you guys spend time eating each others? Please stop.

Pictures of some work is much more interesting to me and many others that read this forum...

Thank you to respect this.

Now lets go to this..

Kursk Original


Same view new...

[Rama]

Originally Posted by GOZR

Pictures of some work is much more interesting to me and many others that read this forum...

Wonder how they got the proper altitudes without knowing the altitude coding table in the game....
looks to me much more like "there should be hills there, so I put hills there... don't care if summit is 500m or 2000m...."

[Spectrum]

Originally Posted by Rama

Wonder how they got the proper altitudes without knowing the altitude coding table in the game....
looks to me much more like "there should be hills there, so I put hills there... don't care if summit is 500m or 2000m...."

Rama -- Do you know that they don't have the altitude coding worked out, or are you just guessing? You seem to be very negative about these mapping efforts, both here and in the Battle of France thread. These maps look like a very interesting development to me. If Bob suddenly gets released then they will quickly become redundant, that's true, but why does that bother you? In any event the information that's being gathered may end up being used for Storm of War in some way in the future. -- and in the meantime its helping to maintain interest in the IL-2 series.

[JG52Uther]

Interesting that this thread is even allowed here at the official 1C forum,when all talk of modding is not allowed at ubi.
1)Either Oleg does'nt care and is actually interested in some of the stuff being done,or
2)He is looking at what needs to be done to lock it down again.
Because of the time constraints with 4.09 personally I think option 1.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Interesting that this thread is even allowed here at the official 1C forum,when all talk of modding is not allowed at ubi.
1)Either Oleg does'nt care and is actually interested in some of the stuff being done,or
2)He is looking at what needs to be done to lock it down again.
Because of the time constraints with 4.09 personally I think option 1.

Hehe, sry, but u think Oleg dont mind losing money in the end because of hacked game?

Keep dreaming.



And this drivel about level playingfield for thoose who cant afford expensive pc`s and so on.....horseshit i say.

Sounds like an excuse made by someone who neither have the pations or the nack to learn a game, any game...so he finds any excuse to CHEAT.

Anyone who thinks (i wonder who) hacks levels the playingfield is really running out of excuses. LOL.


Next somone gonna say he needs 16 50 cals on the P-47 because every 2 shots fired gets lost because of lag issues. "Hey the dude with the 8Mgb connection has a unfair advantage...whaaaaa" LOL


If u have low/middle end pc/connection u learn how to deal with it, like i and 95% of everybodyelse does.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Interesting that this thread is even allowed here at the official 1C forum,when all talk of modding is not allowed at ubi.
1)Either Oleg does'nt care and is actually interested in some of the stuff being done,or
2)He is looking at what needs to be done to lock it down again.
Because of the time constraints with 4.09 personally I think option 1.

That's why some of the comments directed at me for at least letting discussion about the subject whyich like it or not is a fact are so ridiculous...

[Rama]

Originally Posted by Spectrum

Rama -- Do you know that they don't have the altitude coding worked out, or are you just guessing?

Yes, I know.
And I also know the amount of time and effort to create a map. I was part of the dev of some of the maps.