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Old 07-02-2011, 03:50 PM
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Just a brief message to say that I did try the NA this week. I didn't get what I wanted, the airfield records differ considerably, some go into some detail as to what was going on on the base, some stuck rigidly to the base and concerned themselves with transfers, promotions and visitors. Finally some had pages missing, Duxfords for instance had the pages for January to April missing. I was only able to look at six reports and gave up after that.

All I found were some more details re the import of fuel for the period June to August when approx 250 tankers arrived or were expected to arrive in the UK carrying petroleum products. It didn't split these into MT, 87 or 100 Octane totals.

I also found a memo dated dated Nov and its clear that the reserves were more than healthy. The Phrase 'We are very well ahead in our fuel reserve and shall not make an appreciable increase in the pesent stocks' is used. (note their English not mine).

I will have another go next week.

However the War Cabinet records are on line at the NA website if someone wants to support the view held by Pips that they discussed the lack of fuel in May and made the decisions he states, they are free to try. I did look a second time at the originals, but again didn't find anything apart from some weekly reports (from May monthly) but again they support the steady increase in stocks.

So much fuel arrived in June 1940 that storage capacity for MT fuel was brimmed out (their phrase).

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Old 07-03-2011, 04:19 PM
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However the War Cabinet records are on line at the NA website if someone wants to support the view held by Pips that they discussed the lack of fuel in May and made the decisions he states, they are free to try. I did look a second time at the originals, but again didn't find anything apart from some weekly reports (from May monthly) but again they support the steady increase in stocks.
Can you give a link to these online sources, David?
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Old 07-03-2011, 07:05 PM
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Can you give a link to these online sources, David?
I'm not David, but I think he means here
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Old 07-03-2011, 11:23 PM
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Thats correct. I believe the files that you want start CAB 65/7/1 and should be available to download. If you are stuck on anything let me know on the thread or via a PM.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:31 AM
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Have you got any luck in the archives, David, you have been a bit silent for a month about the subject.
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Old 07-23-2011, 03:28 PM
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Have you got any luck in the archives, David, you have been a bit silent for a month about the subject.
What have you found?
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:51 PM
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The only interesting thing that I picked up was that there was a serious shortage of 100 Octane Fuel, serious enough to start impacting operations in the period May to August 1944 (not 1940).
Emergency measures were taken such as switching RAF squadrons which had US radial engines to US 90 octane fuel and a temporary dip below the previously set strategic minimum reserve level. Once the invasion was firm and the pressure eased the situation returned to normal.

There was one file I was after which they couldn't find and another that I had high hopes of, that only had one sheet of paper in it. Its unlikely that I will get to visit again until October.

Kurfurst, How did you get on finding evidence of the May 1940 meetings that support Pips posting?
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