A tool that could help evaluate BOB COD objectively

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Orpheus, how exactly do you think you are helping? Has Luthier asked people to post their Win 7 index scores? Nope. Do the specifications for the game include the index? Nope. I don't believe in 'conspiracies', but I do understand how marketing works. If you don't think that Microsoft has an interest in convincing you that you need new hardware, I'd suggest that your tinfoil hat is probably restricting blood flow to your brain...

You really are mental aren't you? This has nothing to do with MS's interest in hardware sales - are you seriously suggesting that we are all unwitting (or even willing!) participants in some Microsoft conspiracy to get us all to buy new OS with our new hardware via misleading benchmarks? Do you realise how paranoid/inane/messed up that sounds? What would be the point of even releasing a benchmark to the public that didn't work, let alone including it with all new operating systems? Do you think that your windows process manager lies to you about how much CPU is being used, or what programs you're running? Or maybe that's all part of the conspiracy too?

Clearly you know jack about marketing, or you'd realise that releasing a program across literally hundreds of thousands of users worldwide isn't good marketing - it's just dumb. All the Win Index is, is an attempt to simplify benchmarking processes so even the casual users can understand it - not just mouthbreathing neckbeards in rooms filled with Linux books and dirty tissues.



Given that it was a forum moderator that posted the OP, I figured it had a reasonable chance of helping Luthier & Co. I've said this several times now: Even if you lot think it's wrong, or an evil marketing tool, or you're convinced that your benchmarking program is so much better - save it for the other thread. Leave this one for people who actually want to contribute their settings and results, or you're just sh*tting it up for the rest of us.

[Novotny]

What a bunch of cocknobs.

As recommended on the first page, use Sisoft Sandra.

The Rest of you: You kill this game. I Hope you are happy.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Orpheus

You really are mental aren't you? This has nothing to do with MS's interest in hardware sales - are you seriously suggesting that we are all unwitting (or even willing!) participants in some Microsoft conspiracy to get us all to buy new OS with our new hardware via misleading benchmarks? Do you realise how paranoid/inane/messed up that sounds? What would be the point of even releasing a benchmark to the public that didn't work, let alone including it with all new operating systems? Do you think that your windows process manager lies to you about how much CPU is being used, or what programs you're running? Or maybe that's all part of the conspiracy too?

Clearly you know jack about marketing, or you'd realise that releasing a program across literally hundreds of thousands of users worldwide isn't good marketing - it's just dumb. All the Win Index is, is an attempt to simplify benchmarking processes so even the casual users can understand it - not just mouthbreathing neckbeards in rooms filled with Linux books and dirty tissues.



Given that it was a forum moderator that posted the OP, I figured it had a reasonable chance of helping Luthier & Co. I've said this several times now: Even if you lot think it's wrong, or an evil marketing tool, or you're convinced that your benchmarking program is so much better - save it for the other thread. Leave this one for people who actually want to contribute their settings and results, or you're just sh*tting it up for the rest of us.

Orpheus,it has been repeatedly demonstrated (by people who understand computer hardware) that the benchmark is flawed - in my case for instance, it gave two widely-differing results for the same hardware. But rather than deal with the issues, people keep pushing the benchmark as some sort of useful parameter when it comes to determining if CloD will run, and then abusing anyone who questions its utility. As I have already pointed out, the CloD specifications make no mention of the benchmark, and the developers have never given any indication that they consider it valid. Yes, Nearmiss is a moderator - but that is no indication of any particular knowledge or qualifications when it comes to the issue. I think he is wrong, and so do many other posters, and his personal opinion isn't automatically 'right' because he is a moderator.

As for whether the benchmark is a marketing tool, I can see little reason for it to be much else - it offers no useful advice apart from "buy new hardware" and as I've already pointed out, it is in Microsoft's interest to do this.

Finally, your offensive personal remarks are to me an indication of exactly what is wrong with this forum. The loud-mouthed and ignorant drown out the reasoned and logical. What CloD needs most as a 'marketing tool' is a forum where purchasers having difficulties with the sim can ask for help, without being given useless advice, and without having to wade through reams of off-topic waffle. The benchmark will tell nobody anything remotely relevant about hardware problems that isn't better dealt with by asking for proper hardware specs - the first step in almost every hardware-related problem-solving process.

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

stuff..

Since Ze Jamz was decent enough to apologise, I will too - sorry if I offended you. However, the reasons for/against have been done to death in both this thread and the other one - we know you don't like it, and that's fair enough. Not everyone agrees with you, and your opinion is no more or less valid than any other - refusing to see the other side does you no service whatsoever.

I refuse to get into yet another argument over this, especially as this thread is taking a more positive turn, so let's just agree to disagree, and keep this thread on topic, ok? No need for any more