Germany did not lose the Battle of Britain

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

And what do Patriotic modern day Swedish kids say about WW2? How Sweden stayed neutral and supplied Germany with high grade Iron Ore?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

Interesting isn't it... how people make conclusions about others and don't know themselves.

What is that old expression...know thyself?

I'd say it would be the better part of wise for anyone on this international forums to keep their disparaging remarks about other countries to themselves. There just aren't any countries that have done things non-politically. Politics, I am convinced is the enemy of all countries. As citizens and just plain folks we get along very well.

[ElAurens]

Well said nearmiss.

[MaxGunz]

The thing is that we do have people who think that the US 'won WWI and WWII -- for everyone, by itself, etc' but they are either young or morons or both.

[ElAurens]

From my experience Max, that condition is not exclusive to US citizens.

The moronosphere is ever increasing in size.

[MaxGunz]

Easy to see given the world condition. But I'm not supposed to go on about other country's morons, just the ones in mine. ;^)

I remember times back since the mid-60's when kids would stand out by the sidewalk and decide who had the best army, navy, air force, bombs, etc. That's what a lot of what I've heard since reminds me of, kids on the sidewalk.

[Asheshouse]

Even if the Luftwaffe had gained air superiority the Kriegsmarine could never have sustained an invasion across the channel in the face of the overwhelming numerical superiority of the Royal Navy.

By the end of August the RN had 3 battleships, a carrier, 8 cruisers and 76 destroyers specifically stationed ready to destroy any invasion fleet. The most distant heavy units were based on the Firth of Forth and could have reached the Dover Straits within 20hrs.

Despite this commitment to home defence greater naval resources still were retained in the north at Scapa Flow and further afield in the Mediterranean.

There can be no doubt, that even in the face of heavy attacks by the Luftwaffe, the RN would have intervened decisively.

[ElAurens]

Actually all the Royal Navy would have to have done was run destroyers at full speed up and down the Channel and swamp the river barges the Germans were going to use for the crossing. They were never designed for the open sea.

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Asheshouse

By the end of August the RN had 3 battleships, a carrier, 8 cruisers and 76 destroyers specifically stationed ready to destroy any invasion fleet. The most distant heavy units were based on the Firth of Forth and could have reached the Dover Straits within 20hrs.

What's the source for this bit? I'm looking for a good read, might be a good one if there's more like that in it.

[Asheshouse]

Summarised here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British...f_World_War_II

There are a number of books on Operation Sealion.
Two I have read, both fairly concise:

• Cox, Richard (1977). Operation Sea Lion. Presidio Press. ISBN 0-89141-015-5
• Macksey, Kenneth (1980). Invasion: The German Invasion of England, July 1940. MacMillan Publishing Co. ISBN 0-02-578030-1

[MaxGunz]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Yes, some of our companies traded with Germany prior to our entering the war,

Brown Brothers Harriman and ITT both had to be stopped from trading with the Nazis in 1942. Sometimes it's hard to stop that sugar from flowing in, yano?

It seems our government got smart after our Civil War, why shed our blood when you can have someone else do it?

Especially when they don't kill as many.

Disclaimer: I don't agree with this policy, just calling it like I see it. There would be a lot less bloodshed in the world if the poor masses would just refuse to fight for the powerful elite, let them fight themselves.

You almost make it seem like there's a real choice! Was it Goebbels who said tell them they've been attacked?