Germany did not lose the Battle of Britain

[zauii]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The germans definitely lost the Battle of Britain. The purpuse of the battle was to clear the RAF from the sky's and land forces on British soil. Neither was accomplished. Thats a loss. Losers generally don't write alot of articles extrolling the virtues of their loss.

Instead we've to listen to patriotic modern day kids who believe the US/Brits won the war by themselves.
I doubt anyone would've won against Germany alone, maybe Russia but they would've been defeated if it wasn't for Hitlers foolish misstakes & planning.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by zauii

I doubt anyone would've won against Germany alone, maybe Russia but they would've been defeated if it wasn't for Hitlers foolish misstakes & planning.

Nazi Germany without Japan or Italy against Russia xor America alone would have been a pretty certain loss for Nazi Germany. I think the British Empire might have done it, there were a lot of folks in the Empire, but it would have been a closer thing and very expensive if it was doable at all.

However, such "what if"s are very much speculative fantasy, there is no way of making a real assessment, it didn't happen that way.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Originally Posted by zauii

Instead we've to listen to patriotic modern day kids who believe the US/Brits won the war by themselves.
I doubt anyone would've won against Germany alone, maybe Russia but they would've been defeated if it wasn't for Hitlers foolish misstakes & planning.

And what do Patriotic modern day Swedish kids say about WW2? How Sweden stayed neutral and supplied Germany with high grade Iron Ore?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

And what do Patriotic modern day Swedish kids say about WW2? How Sweden stayed neutral and supplied Germany with high grade Iron Ore?

Best Regards,
MB_Avro

Interesting isn't it... how people make conclusions about others and don't know themselves.

What is that old expression...know thyself?

I'd say it would be the better part of wise for anyone on this international forums to keep their disparaging remarks about other countries to themselves. There just aren't any countries that have done things non-politically. Politics, I am convinced is the enemy of all countries. As citizens and just plain folks we get along very well.

[ElAurens]

Well said nearmiss.

[MaxGunz]

The thing is that we do have people who think that the US 'won WWI and WWII -- for everyone, by itself, etc' but they are either young or morons or both.

[ElAurens]

From my experience Max, that condition is not exclusive to US citizens.

The moronosphere is ever increasing in size.

[MaxGunz]

Easy to see given the world condition. But I'm not supposed to go on about other country's morons, just the ones in mine. ;^)

I remember times back since the mid-60's when kids would stand out by the sidewalk and decide who had the best army, navy, air force, bombs, etc. That's what a lot of what I've heard since reminds me of, kids on the sidewalk.

[Asheshouse]

Even if the Luftwaffe had gained air superiority the Kriegsmarine could never have sustained an invasion across the channel in the face of the overwhelming numerical superiority of the Royal Navy.

By the end of August the RN had 3 battleships, a carrier, 8 cruisers and 76 destroyers specifically stationed ready to destroy any invasion fleet. The most distant heavy units were based on the Firth of Forth and could have reached the Dover Straits within 20hrs.

Despite this commitment to home defence greater naval resources still were retained in the north at Scapa Flow and further afield in the Mediterranean.

There can be no doubt, that even in the face of heavy attacks by the Luftwaffe, the RN would have intervened decisively.

[MaxGunz]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Yes, some of our companies traded with Germany prior to our entering the war,

Brown Brothers Harriman and ITT both had to be stopped from trading with the Nazis in 1942. Sometimes it's hard to stop that sugar from flowing in, yano?

It seems our government got smart after our Civil War, why shed our blood when you can have someone else do it?

Especially when they don't kill as many.

Disclaimer: I don't agree with this policy, just calling it like I see it. There would be a lot less bloodshed in the world if the poor masses would just refuse to fight for the powerful elite, let them fight themselves.

You almost make it seem like there's a real choice! Was it Goebbels who said tell them they've been attacked?