109E3 cannons or spud guns

[Kurfürst]

Those large 20 mm incendinaries were probably quite effective against bomber fuel tanks I guess... I agree they are a bit difficult to use against fighters. I find them very effective against bombers, it easily sets them on fire.

The problem with the current FF is the low muzzle velocity and the lack of effective HE shell. The E-4 ie. MG-FF/M will solve both of these problems, as the lighter M-Geschoss was fired at much higher speeds.

[skouras]

i saw a huge difference when i set them to 200

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

................ MG-FF/M will solve both of these problems, as the lighter M-Geschoss was fired at much higher speeds.

never heard about a higher V0 of the Mineshell.....?!

[Kurfürst]

Its a lighter shell fired with a similiar charge - its faster. IIRC on 151/20 it was 805 m/sec vs 710 or so of the regular HEI/API, and 700ish on the MGFF vs. the regular 520 or so. It did loose speed a bit faster, but I don't think that matters at these marginal ranges of 100-200 meter.

[TomcatViP]

The big diff came from the feeding mechanism for the canons that went from a large and rather impressive belt arrangement (!) to 60 rds drums.

[Masi67]

Mg FF pretty useless as it is now MG17 is killer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMnSqcmANro

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

The big diff came from the feeding mechanism for the canons that went from a large and rather impressive belt arrangement (!) to 60 rds drums.

Both the MG/FF and the MG/FFM never had a belt feeding mechanism, they always had the 60 round drum when mounted in the BF 109. Only the E-1 with the wing installed MG-17 had ammo belts.

[JG53Frankyboy]

And the cases of the 20mm ruonds were collected in the wing and not thrown out like in CoD AFAIK

[FG28_Kodiak]

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto

Both the MG/FF and the MG/FFM never had a belt feeding mechanism, they always had the 60 round drum when mounted in the BF 109. Only the E-1 with the wing installed MG-17 had ammo belts.

Wrong !