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[Phazon]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.

AMD or Nvidia have not been releasing driver fixes for Cliffs of Dover because the engine itself is just too buggy and is/was not supporting DirectX standards (no true fullscreen until recently was a big mistake). There are so many existing graphical artefacts on everyone's copy of the game that it is hard for them to determine what is their fault and what is Maddox Games.

Proof in point, Maddox Games is supposably supported by Nvidia yet we have not seen any driver updates from Nvidia showing support for Cliffs of Dover. Nvidia SLI still won't work with Cliffs of Dover, yet Crossfire does. Maddox Games has to fix their engine first before we'll see any driver fixes from either company.

[Blackdog_kt]

I can understand your frustration but what is there to fix on the part of nVidia/Ati? There's some clear distinction by now, some glitches are part of 1c's job, but the blue lines seem to be a specific issue to the 69xx cards and probably the only thing Ati would be responsible for.

As for why they don't release fixes they didn't for IL2:1946 either, it took months of user reporting on Ati forums to do it and that one had a very stable, bug free engine.

The reason they don't is the limited market share of flight sims first and foremost. Also, the sim's engine is certainly not final and graphics changes occur almost on each patch (for example, lighting effects have already been changed twice), so until there's a final set of features to work with i don't know if it makes sense to go into specific driver tweaks on the part of GPU manufacturers.

In any case, this whole thing of being at the mercy of the GPU manufacturer to release profiles for a niche gaming genre and the fact that it's not possible to use the VRAM on both cards is why i never go for SLI/crossfire. I've always had single GPUs on my PCs and everything worked as it should right from the get go for all games.

I'm not saying the sim is perfect but i have had nothing but improvements with each single new patch, to the point that i'm now starting to expect fixes to a few gameplay elements (certain instruments and controls in certain aircraft) because playability is certainly fixed for me: my frame rates don't get choppy at all unless i fly very very low over London (below 400 feet) and i still get about 25 when flying a bit higher over it, in all other cases it's anywhere between 30 and 60 FPS (capped due to using Vsync) depending on the terrain i'm flying over.

I want Xfire/SLI to get fixed for the people that use it, but i nevertheless think dual GPU solutions are a risky choice for a title of a niche gaming genre with an engine that's constantly being updated.

In other words part of it is 1c's fault, part of it is the fault of GPU manufacturers for ignoring our genre and part of it is the user's fault for going with a hardware configuration that is expected to cause issues for the type of games we like to play due to the reasons described above.

[Kankkis]

I Can confirm, that UBISOFT intro disabling helps my FPS a LOT, now i get constant 60FPS allmost all settings maxed on Crosscountry mission.

Please Luthier, check that problem, disabling that intro gives me a REAL FPS BOOST.

[jayrc]

Originally Posted by Kankkis

I Can confirm, that UBISOFT intro disabling helps my FPS a LOT, now i get constant 60FPS allmost all settings maxed on Crosscountry mission.

Please Luthier, check that problem, disabling that intro gives me a REAL FPS BOOST.

how do you disable intro movie, I couldn't see it in the conf.ini? what's it called? thanks

[Kankkis]

Originally Posted by jayrc

how do you disable intro movie, I couldn't see it in the conf.ini? what's it called? thanks

Check page 18.

I Can confirm, that UBISOFT intro disabling helps my FPS a LOT, now i get constant 60FPS allmost all settings maxed on Crosscountry mission.

Please Luthier, check that problem, disabling that intro gives me a REAL FPS BOOST.

Surely this, yet again shows that fullscreen is not fixed, because if removing a 2D animation segment makes the game perform better doesnt that mean the game is having to try to switch from desktop (2D) state to 3D (Game) state when the game is already underway.

[Doc_uk]

Does anybody no what was actually fixed with this 60mb patch?
is there more to come?

[Kankkis]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Surely this, yet again shows that fullscreen is not fixed, because if removing a 2D animation segment makes the game perform better doesnt that mean the game is having to try to switch from desktop (2D) state to 3D (Game) state when the game is already underway.

Yes, that intro is not fullscreen, but game works fullscreen. Disabled intro and my game is real smooth now.

So it looks when it displays intro after that it doesen't boost your GPU to fullscreenmode.

Now i can enjoy this game, just tested quick missions where was many planes, steady 60fps with Vsync, little stutter at first when fly close to bombers but not after first time.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

In other words part of it is 1c's fault, part of it is the fault of GPU manufacturers for ignoring our genre and part of it is the user's fault for going with a hardware configuration that is expected to cause issues for the type of games we like to play due to the reasons described above.

Sorry, but I disagree with this part of your post. No blame can be laid at the user's door at all, since Sli/X-fire is hardly new tech anymore, and besides many people had dual gpu configurations long before Clod saw the light of day. For many, Clod is also not the only game they play.

People shouldn't have to be restricted to certain hardware choices because of software foul-ups.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Sorry, but I disagree with this part of your post. No blame can be laid at the user's door at all, since Sli/X-fire is hardly new tech anymore, and besides many people had dual gpu configurations long before Clod saw the light of day. For many, Clod is also not the only game they play.

People shouldn't have to be restricted to certain hardware choices because of software foul-ups.

The thing is, if u want the best and most stable fps, no microstuttering and as problem free gaming experience as possible, any hardware site worth its salt recommends a single powerful card over two lesser ones. Thats just the way it is. Sli and Xfire is by no means perfect, in any game, and thats a fact.

U said it yourself, sli and Xfire is old technology and far from optimal and that's common knowledge.