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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-22-2011, 07:22 PM
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I realised that the Stuka shaking is because of flying it incorrectly. It happens when the engine isn't treated correctly. RPM's, temps, etc...
Have you ever flown it with CEM online? It flies silky smooth online but offline it doesn't matter if my temps are perfect or where my ATA is at. I just tried offline radiators fully open, not even exceeding 1.0 ATA at take off, still shaking. Try it online yourself and notice the difference. Believe me I have read the manual, I have read the forums, I'm a seasoned IL-2 pilot so I have not missed anything.

Also, FPS are ok after the patch but rubber banding is HORRIBLE, especially down low over land. It's like the plane is doing never ending long jumps, LOL! I'll just put this back into the mothball where it belongs for now.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:33 PM
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I've already reported it to ATI and so have several other users. Its not hard to tell who's to blame, considering the amount of graphical artefacts that exist in Cliffs of Dover for all brands and series of cards its pretty obvious who is bloody well at fault here. The other major sims play nice with the ATI cards so Cliffs of Dover is doing itself no favours at all.

The longer the blue stripes bug goes unfixed the longer I wouldn't even remotely consider spending any more money on a future IL-2 title.
Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:36 PM
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Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.
Correction, only 69xx series gets the horizon stripes.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:48 PM
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Correction, only 69xx series gets the horizon stripes.
Correction, only 69xx series gets the horizon stripes.

The difference here is the smiley. If the problem was wider spread, it would probably be fixed already...
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:23 PM
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Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.
Us 69xx card user have been shoved to the back of the line, when it comes to fixing this game
Plus the fact is luthier and the team, Must no by now the blues lines are there, but they wont even say wether it is the game or driver related
Well that sucks
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:28 PM
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Sound bug: I flew tonight for around 3 hours in patched servers, and never had the sound bug ... cross fingers.
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Old 06-23-2011, 02:53 AM
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Strange, because it works fine on other Ati cards like my two year old 4890 or the 5xxx series. I used to get anywhere between 30-60FPS over any kind of terrain with the previous patch and this one probably made it better since it runs fine without me having to disable the Ubi logo splash screen (i'll try it out and see if i gain anything more).

This blue stripes business is most probably an issue between the drivers and the 6xxx series architecture, otherwise we would all get the blue stripes. However, it's only the 6xxx series that gets it, every other Ati card that meets the system requirements doesn't have this problem.
AMD or Nvidia have not been releasing driver fixes for Cliffs of Dover because the engine itself is just too buggy and is/was not supporting DirectX standards (no true fullscreen until recently was a big mistake). There are so many existing graphical artefacts on everyone's copy of the game that it is hard for them to determine what is their fault and what is Maddox Games.

Proof in point, Maddox Games is supposably supported by Nvidia yet we have not seen any driver updates from Nvidia showing support for Cliffs of Dover. Nvidia SLI still won't work with Cliffs of Dover, yet Crossfire does. Maddox Games has to fix their engine first before we'll see any driver fixes from either company.
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:20 AM
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I can understand your frustration but what is there to fix on the part of nVidia/Ati? There's some clear distinction by now, some glitches are part of 1c's job, but the blue lines seem to be a specific issue to the 69xx cards and probably the only thing Ati would be responsible for.

As for why they don't release fixes they didn't for IL2:1946 either, it took months of user reporting on Ati forums to do it and that one had a very stable, bug free engine.

The reason they don't is the limited market share of flight sims first and foremost. Also, the sim's engine is certainly not final and graphics changes occur almost on each patch (for example, lighting effects have already been changed twice), so until there's a final set of features to work with i don't know if it makes sense to go into specific driver tweaks on the part of GPU manufacturers.

In any case, this whole thing of being at the mercy of the GPU manufacturer to release profiles for a niche gaming genre and the fact that it's not possible to use the VRAM on both cards is why i never go for SLI/crossfire. I've always had single GPUs on my PCs and everything worked as it should right from the get go for all games.

I'm not saying the sim is perfect but i have had nothing but improvements with each single new patch, to the point that i'm now starting to expect fixes to a few gameplay elements (certain instruments and controls in certain aircraft) because playability is certainly fixed for me: my frame rates don't get choppy at all unless i fly very very low over London (below 400 feet) and i still get about 25 when flying a bit higher over it, in all other cases it's anywhere between 30 and 60 FPS (capped due to using Vsync) depending on the terrain i'm flying over.

I want Xfire/SLI to get fixed for the people that use it, but i nevertheless think dual GPU solutions are a risky choice for a title of a niche gaming genre with an engine that's constantly being updated.

In other words part of it is 1c's fault, part of it is the fault of GPU manufacturers for ignoring our genre and part of it is the user's fault for going with a hardware configuration that is expected to cause issues for the type of games we like to play due to the reasons described above.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:06 AM
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I Can confirm, that UBISOFT intro disabling helps my FPS a LOT, now i get constant 60FPS allmost all settings maxed on Crosscountry mission.

Please Luthier, check that problem, disabling that intro gives me a REAL FPS BOOST.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:49 AM
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I Can confirm, that UBISOFT intro disabling helps my FPS a LOT, now i get constant 60FPS allmost all settings maxed on Crosscountry mission.

Please Luthier, check that problem, disabling that intro gives me a REAL FPS BOOST.

how do you disable intro movie, I couldn't see it in the conf.ini? what's it called? thanks
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