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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-17-2011, 04:37 PM
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Agreed..

We were in a pretty shi^^y state as far as Airfields and AC goes...them changing the target area at London and other cities gave Britain the time it needed to replenish Aircraft and pilots as well as fix AF's..

Who knows what would of happened if they kept us on the ground...very very hard to stop an evasion if you havent got an airforce to help stop it and the enemy has a free ball park to pound any defense we have/had.

But in that situation Hitler was fighting to many fronts at any given time... i could pretty much guarantee if he chose to not do that and brought the fight to Britain first and when he first thought about it with a continued attack on our Airfields to start...well i think things would be very different
I think everyone makes it a strong point that because germany changed tatics and bombed london that That was why England was able to fight back However i read a a few books and talked to a few vets about airfields around the time To know that alot of the airfields were made to look like roads and farmming fields and the fake airfields as real ones Germany had alot of bad info on old airfields and even bombed a airfield that was used for sea bombing/recon thinking it was a main stronghold for spitfires and bombed almost daily When the real field was 20 miles to the west and missed

Shipping : Canada i know was making Hurries and spits and mossy's, Lancasters and shipping them over the pond along with metal and fuel aswell with US arms o the point that later German U-boats were seen and sunk off the coast of Canada

So was it that Germany Thought they had crushed the RAF already and moved on to demoralize the english people,

Or Gave up on trying to crush the RAF and figured a surrender would come by bombing London. After all Doolittle tryied to scratch Tokyo to prove a point

My thought was. Germany had bombed other countries Airfields then cities with little fight back and stuck with the same tatic figuring they had beaten the RAF from misguided reports Letting the RAF form defence patterns with radar RAF also had time to move air fields and cover those ones that would best suit defence They also knew that Fuel would be a major issue for Germany. I keep remembering a quote a pilot used : Would you rather shoot down 50 esorted bombers with bombs or 100 unesorted bombers after they droped there bombs .....He never told me the answer but that was a tatic used back then.

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Old 06-20-2011, 10:38 PM
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If Churchill had been replaced by Lord Halifax in May 1940, there would have been no need for the Battle of Britain.

And this could have happened. If the Dunkirk evacuation had not been successful, Churchill would have been forced out of Government. He was not popular with many in Government, particularly the British 'aristocratic' German sympathisers who saught appeasement.

Don't forget, the British Royal Family was and is of German heritage.

Equally, if the German Luftwaffe had attained air superiority over southern England, Churchill would have been ousted.
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Old 06-21-2011, 08:02 AM
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If Churchill had been replaced by Lord Halifax in May 1940, there would have been no need for the Battle of Britain.

And this could have happened. If the Dunkirk evacuation had not been successful, Churchill would have been forced out of Government. He was not popular with many in Government, particularly the British 'aristocratic' German sympathisers who saught appeasement.

Don't forget, the British Royal Family was and is of German heritage.

Equally, if the German Luftwaffe had attained air superiority over southern England, Churchill would have been ousted.
There's a lot of if's and maybe's in there Avro,the truth is Winston Churchil was the sole motivator to the British people back in 1940,he lead this country through it's darkest days.

The thought of our own Government appeasing with the Nazi's after Poland is a complete joke,it would'nt have happened.

Like him or not the man was a genius of politics,if the Germans had invaded this country,any leader of this country would've been ousted,period,this I would imagine to most would be a no brainer
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next patch info?? I thought this was a high level historic-geo-strategic forum. but maybe i am a little OT.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
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It was never likely an invasion of Britian would take place, after the Norway debacle the German High Command were loathed to launch any sea invasion.



At sea the invasion of Norway proved a significant setback. For the Kriegsmarine the campaign led to crippling losses, leaving the Kriegsmarine with a surface force of one heavy cruiser, two light cruisers and four destroyers operational. This left the navy weakened during the summer months when Hitler was pursuing plans for an invasion of Britain...
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
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It was never likely an invasion of Britian would take place, after the Norway debacle the German High Command were loathed to launch any sea invasion.



At sea the invasion of Norway proved a significant setback. For the Kriegsmarine the campaign led to crippling losses, leaving the Kriegsmarine with a surface force of one heavy cruiser, two light cruisers and four destroyers operational. This left the navy weakened during the summer months when Hitler was pursuing plans for an invasion of Britain...
I 100% agree Bobb, just a distraction whilst preperation for the invaison of Russia was underway.
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Old 06-21-2011, 11:30 AM
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I 100% agree Bobb, just a distraction whilst preperation for the invaison of Russia was underway.
Describes CloD and the Battle for Moscow addon perfectly.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:19 PM
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Describes CloD and the Battle for Moscow addon perfectly.
Can we anticipate the BOM addon released on 6-22-2041?
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