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[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Haven't touched IL2:1946 since installing CoD, despite the initial optimization troubles. Now that it actually runs well on my 2 year old PC with mostly medium settings (which look better than IL2's high settings), there's definitely no way of going back.

Sure, i miss my FW190A sometimes, but the CEM alone in the new sim makes IL2 feel like a toy to me now

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From what I have seen CoD with poor ground textures looks terrible compared to 1946 but from medium to high settings you just cannot compare them, CoD looks fantastic.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Looks are subjective period. I don't think CODs terrain looks all that much better. Sure some higher res textures here and there at a cost of FPS I might add. Flickering Shadows and the same clouds as IL2. Yeah it's that much better?

For those of you not able to fly anything but COD because of its CEM and Graphics... IL2 with the mods is years beyond COD in terms of Content and Game Play at the moment. COD has a long ways to go before it comes even close to what we have now.

COD is not even a complete game and I do wish the developers luck and fortune so the developement can continue. At this point we are all Beta testers at best.

[ATAG_Doc]

I don't think it looks too bad I can deal with it. I bet these are not final at all.

[JG27CaptStubing]

I agree... I was just saying that it wasn't all that others make it out to be... It's really not that much different than IL2 with exception of a few high res textures. I'm not completely floored like others.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

I agree... I was just saying that it wasn't all that others make it out to be... It's really not that much different than IL2 with exception of a few high res textures. I'm not completely floored like others.

More nonsense, sorry.

In CloD we have much better trees. We don't have "invisible trees".

We have more real railroads and roads. We have CURVES!

We have much better terrain shading.

We have much better planes and cockpits, and pilots, gunners, etc.

We have amazing and detailed ground units, with decent physics.

And MUCH more, effects, etc... A long list!

"Not that much different than IL2 with exception of a few high res textures" is a joke... And a bad one!

But I can understand... People think in "terrain" as just the ground itself, with a big texture on it. Well, all look the same in any modern flight sim: texture work. What makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE is the shading and things above ground... And I don't see anything near CloD quality today!

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

More nonsense, sorry.

In CloD we have much better trees. We don't have "invisible trees".!

Are you comparing the texture trees the ones that cover large areas against the individual trees we have in COD? Sorry, apples and oranges. Remember at the time IL2 was released we had Pentium IIIs and 4 along with ATI 9800s. Sure the invisible trees is a pain but from Alt they look fine and in fact do a much better job than the handful of trees we have now that Kill FPS dramatically. Go back and read the patch notes. Trees = FPS Killer. I have several times the horse power now and the new trees don't really look at that much better and they Flicker to boot. Talk about nonesense.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

We have more real railroads and roads. We have CURVES!

Woot... Not that much of a Sim Killer IMO

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

We have much better terrain shading.!

Again not that much of a difference and at the cost of Performance. COD is a PIG right now.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

We have much better planes and cockpits, and pilots, gunners, etc.

Better planes... You mean the handful that are flyable? Sure the Models are nicer but not that much different than some of the latest fromt the Mod groups. The people are much better looking but again at what cost to performance?

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

We have amazing and detailed ground units, with decent physics.

Great for a shooter and Physics... Any CPU cycle spent on animating a Wheel over terrain is a waste of time. The game is just now becoming playable even on VERY high end rigs.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

And MUCH more, effects, etc... A long list!.

Like what specifically? The special effects are subtle at best. Heck the dang sound doesn't even work properly. Crappy IL2 sounds to boot.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

"Not that much different than IL2 with exception of a few high res textures" is a joke... And a bad one!

You're right it is a joke at this stage of the game. I wouldn't even consider it to be a fully funtional a game yet. It's beta with many many things missing. QMB? There is more funtionality in IL2 QMB when it was released in 2001 than COD has here in 2011.

Take a look at DCS A10c. It's a DX9c game that is doing WAY more than IL2 COD which is a DX10 game and runs much nicer and it even has Cockpit shadows and HDR to boot. As I said before if you can have all that eye candy and it performs you have my attention. Right now COD is on my hard drive ready for the next few patches before I will look at it again. It's missing way too much content and it has a long way to go before I would consider it to be Viable. It's and early Beta. Guy salavating over the graphics need to go back and look at SAS and UP3.0 RC before they throw the baby out with the bath water. COD is not all that and a hand bag.

[louisv]

you know you can deconstruct any argument that way, it doesn't matter if its true or not...

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

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You're right it is a joke at this stage of the game. I wouldn't even consider it to be a fully funtional a game yet. It's beta with many many things missing.

God it's killing me...Oh OK what did you expect?

Everyone sounds like a used car salesmen. This doesn't have this and its beta and it sucks however I have this 1990 toyota that has this ashtray. Find a car today that includes an ashtray. YOU CAN'T FIND IT! This is why you need this and you look so good in it.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

Are you comparing the texture trees the ones that cover large areas against the individual trees we have in COD? Sorry, apples and oranges. Remember at the time IL2 was released we had Pentium IIIs and 4 along with ATI 9800s. Sure the invisible trees is a pain but from Alt they look fine and in fact do a much better job than the handful of trees we have now that Kill FPS dramatically. Go back and read the patch notes. Trees = FPS Killer. I have several times the horse power now and the new trees don't really look at that much better and they Flicker to boot. Talk about nonesense.

Woot... Not that much of a Sim Killer IMO



Again not that much of a difference and at the cost of Performance. COD is a PIG right now.



Better planes... You mean the handful that are flyable? Sure the Models are nicer but not that much different than some of the latest fromt the Mod groups. The people are much better looking but again at what cost to performance?



Great for a shooter and Physics... Any CPU cycle spent on animating a Wheel over terrain is a waste of time. The game is just now becoming playable even on VERY high end rigs.



Like what specifically? The special effects are subtle at best. Heck the dang sound doesn't even work properly. Crappy IL2 sounds to boot.



You're right it is a joke at this stage of the game. I wouldn't even consider it to be a fully funtional a game yet. It's beta with many many things missing. QMB? There is more funtionality in IL2 QMB when it was released in 2001 than COD has here in 2011.

Take a look at DCS A10c. It's a DX9c game that is doing WAY more than IL2 COD which is a DX10 game and runs much nicer and it even has Cockpit shadows and HDR to boot. As I said before if you can have all that eye candy and it performs you have my attention. Right now COD is on my hard drive ready for the next few patches before I will look at it again. It's missing way too much content and it has a long way to go before I would consider it to be Viable. It's and early Beta. Guy salavating over the graphics need to go back and look at SAS and UP3.0 RC before they throw the baby out with the bath water. COD is not all that and a hand bag.

If you can't fly with great performance in your rig, maybe you must donate it to someone who can use a computer, sorry to say.

But I understand you: you are a fanboy of UP. I like the modpack, but I'm not blind and don't tell lies.

The funny part is you talking that IL-2 with mods looks good as CloD and when exposed to the obvious flaws in old IL-2 1946 engine you start with "apples and oranges"... Go do something usefull, please.

By the way, in my rig trees aren't "FPS killers" at all: I fly with forest = medium and all runs OK.

Tired of all this crap. People don't fly CloD and jump here to talk a lot of Bull#@$@.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

Like what specifically? The special effects are subtle at best.\

The proof that this guy NEVER explore CloD and jump here to talk crap!

"Subtle"? Geta life, please! Watch the explosions in CloD, hits on units, smoke effects, physics in vehicles exploding...

"Subtle"... Go fly UP3.0RC, please, untill 2020...