Cliffs of Dover Video Thread V1.0 [Closed]

[Les]

I really like Black and White-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knMaWpYcVvM

But I like desaturated colour too-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuC7ruQs9yo

And I also like saturated colour as well-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BaR6qjKF6U

It's a dilemma.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Les

I really like Black and White-

Looks great! You may wish to try some old cinema filters http://compression.ru/video/old_cinema/index_en.html and adding a projector sound. I used to have a set of filters called something like guncam suit but can not Google it now. But there are some results if you search for old movie or cinema filters for virtualdub or other editors.

[Les]

Thanks for the link Ataros. At the moment I'm exploring more basic 'clean', 'new print' sort of looks and checking out some simple variations on that, but will probably explore some of the 'aged' and 'damaged print' looks at some point too.

In the meantime, here are some colour versions of the previous video clip -

Original colour -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUy8pfaUzjs

Slightly blurred -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai2m5d6HKyg

Slightly blurred and desaturated -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YQGvmP5uXo

Slightly blurred and desaturated and brightened -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q30XHfgr2Tw

I don't expect people to watch all of these clips, but if they're interested they can open them up here or in different browser tabs on Youtube and compare the different looks, then perhaps choose which one they want to watch all the way through.

With the ability in this digital age to present various versions of an image, it seems a bit strange to me to impose my personal image preferences upon the end viewer of the image. There are certain filmic conventions that might determine which visual look or style is more suitable for a particular kind of subject matter, and maybe I'm just letting my indecision get the better of me, but why not let the audience decide?

[Lololopoulos]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Looks great! You may wish to try some old cinema filters http://compression.ru/video/old_cinema/index_en.html and adding a projector sound. I used to have a set of filters called something like guncam suit but can not Google it now. But there are some results if you search for old movie or cinema filters for virtualdub or other editors.

So far the AI motions have been very jerky and look unnatural. I think good gun-cam vids and sim movies will have to wait until they smooth the movements out.

[ATAG_Doc]

You're quite the propaganda machine.

[Les]

If it's stable enough, people can fly and record stuff online together to avoid having to rely on the jerky-looking AI movements. I haven't been too worried about it though with the kinds of video's I've been making.

I guess I've made my point about the different looks that can can be achieved using such a versatile base as we have with Cliffs of Dover. Will just post one link to any future video's I make and let people find on Youtube any variations I might put up, no need to clog up this thread with them.

[AARPRazorbacks]

Look at the effect of the gunner after he gets hit.

Now thats an effect!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfjl9...embedded#at=59

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Les

And I also like saturated colour as well-

Could you use it with dynamic range compression/reduction filter (sort of levels reduced in photoshop) and increased contrast?

Desaturated with compressed range could be also very interesting.

I love the look of the 50s films or late war gun camera color footage.

Which software do you use for video editing?

[Les]

Originally Posted by Ataros

Could you use it with dynamic range compression/reduction filter (sort of levels reduced in photoshop) and increased contrast?

Desaturated with compressed range could be also very interesting.

I love the look of the 50s films or late war gun camera color footage.

Which software do you use for video editing?

I've been using Adobe Premiere Pro.

I like the way those old colour films look too.

I think with enough determination and attention to detail you could probably apply any sort of film-look to Cliffs Of Dover. There probably are limits though to how good the end result would be. For example, the game lacks a certain level of detail in a lot of places, which when filtered could make it appear more cartoonish than it would if the filter were applied to a picture of a more highly detailed real-life scene.

I had a look at some colour gun-cam footage on Youtube too just before and the image quality was all over the place, even changing within a single shot. I think in some cases no video game would hold up if presented through filters accurately replicating what those films look like.

I also downloaded and had a quick look at that 'msu_old cinema' plug-in for VirtualDub that you linked to. It's been ages since I've used VirtualDub, but I managed to export a couple of shots out of it using some of the 'msu_old cinema' effects. I didn't explore it very thoroughly, but it looks like it might come in handy some time. Generally speaking though I'm not into the scratchy/damaged film look at the moment and I've never found those effects to be very convincing or realistic.

While I was playing around with it all though, I put the shots I exported out of VirtuaDub through Premier Pro and tweaked all but one of the colour shots even further, leaving the black and white shot as it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTvmvY_qxzM

Is nothing serious, but I like the way the black and white shot turned out. Even thought I was getting dangerously close to a 'Wings Of Prey' look there with that first colour shot too. How well would a video done in that style go down here?

[ATAG_Doc]

Not trying to change the subject but has anyone see this flick? Looks like a very interesting movie.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer...oreign-trailer