Yet another week of running in the dark.

[Trooper117]

I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here from what I assume are adults..
I bought the game., it doesn't play as well as I would like on my system.
I have worked out by my own experience, and by reading through many threads on several forums that:

a. The game has not been released in a finished state.
b. My system needs upgrading so I can enjoy what I have.
c. Subsequent patches have not improved the game for me.
d. The developers seem to be making efforts to rectify the faults.

Now, do I expect some sort of 'apology' from the devs that the points above have highlighted?
Of course not.. I didn't have to buy the game.. I could have waited until most of the faults have been rectified before purchasing.
I've bought games in the past that worked fine, but guess what? I didn't like them.. they were not what I was expecting..
Funnily enough, as I didn't like what I had purchased, they were shelved or given away..
It never even crossed my mind to demand or expect some sort of apology!
What a pathetic politicaly correct miserable world we have turned into.. Pah!

[robtek]

1+

I'll drink to that, Trooper117

[Bobb4]

Honestly I am not disappointed at all.
I read Tree's threads before release and knew what to expect.

The game is what I expected a half finished work of art.
It will be completed one way or another.

As for weekly updates, a patch is worth a thousand words.

[CharveL]

+2

Wah I don't get regular updates on Luthiers daily bowel movements wah wah...I'm pissed that I wasn't smart enough to wait a week before mortgaging my house to buy it WAH...!!

Get some perspective, find a shelf to put CLoD on and use the few bucks you saved from the Russian exchange rate to buy yourselves some tissues.

[BP_Tailspin]

I’m still waiting for the US release, and hoping for some news/updates. It would be great to here from the team about the US release and how it will be different from all the previous releases.

I was looking forward to this game ..... now I’m not so sure.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by charvel

+2

wah i don't get regular updates on luthiers daily bowel movements wah wah...i'm pissed that i wasn't smart enough to wait a week before mortgaging my house to buy it wah...!!

Get some perspective, find a shelf to put clod on and use the few bucks you saved from the russian exchange rate to buy yourselves some tissues.

lol!

[ZaltysZ]

Some of you want too much. Devs won't give you premature changelog, because it can backfire (i.e. it turns out that something isn't fixed when it has been announced as fixed). In addition, game is "heavy" as software product, it takes sometime to prepare a snapshots for testing, and you need to do enough changes so that snapshots will be worth a testing. You can't just handle a new snapshot to testers every time something small is fixed - it is not effective way to work.

What do you want from devs? I am sure they can write: "We are fixing game..." every week or day, but is that really necessary? They can't always give more details. Hoping for patch every week is a bit optimistic.

P.S. If programmer gets a list of task and required time for completion, but manager constantly asks to update him on progress in detailed manner, programmer can't usually work effectively. People don't like "are we there yet?" question to be repeated endlessly.

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by Trooper117

I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here from what I assume are adults..

Trooper, if this were ‘just a game’, then you would be quite correct – we could toss it away as a failure and move on to something else while the developer went bankrupt. However, this ‘game’ is a long-anticipated and much-hyped replacement for the most popular WW-II combat sim ever, and as such has a very devoted and loyal fan base who feel (quite rightly in some respects) somewhat cheated by the lack of previously promised regular updates on the progress of much-needed fixes.

I don’t group myself into this category as my passion lies with racing sims, but I can definitely identify with the sentiment. A realistic fact is that there is no alternative to CloD, unlike most other games (including racing sims), and this produces the noted reaction to the lack news from the developer, as well as the resulting rumours.

[JG53Frankyboy]

i personaly dont need update infos from the developers (i remember the WIPs before CoD release...................) .
As long they do thier work - release workable GAME updates, all is ok.

If not, game will not be used. Plain and simple. pitty for the money, but no catastroph, at least for me

[Trooper117]

Originally Posted by TonyD

Trooper, if this were ‘just a game’, then you would be quite correct – we could toss it away as a failure and move on to something else while the developer went bankrupt. However, this ‘game’ is a long-anticipated and much-hyped replacement for the most popular WW-II combat sim ever, and as such has a very devoted and loyal fan base who feel (quite rightly in some respects) somewhat cheated by the lack of previously promised regular updates on the progress of much-needed fixes.

I don’t group myself into this category as my passion lies with racing sims, but I can definitely identify with the sentiment. A realistic fact is that there is no alternative to CloD, unlike most other games (including racing sims), and this produces the noted reaction to the lack news from the developer, as well as the resulting rumours.

I've had IL2 since day one.. I have several other flight simulation 'games'.. and I've been waiting for this game, and despite it's complexity is still a game, for years.. I can't tell you how much time I've spent on forums leading up to it's release, anticipating a monumental leap forward in all of it's aspects.

I'm what you could call 'old school' I guess.. A full career in the armed forces, (now, climb into a full military simulator, and then come and tell me that this is not a game..) Plus, I've always been taught that you don't whinge or whine at what life throws at you.. you just make the best of what you have and get on with it. I carry that philosophy with me in whatever I do, and that includes playing 'games'..

Some of the posters here should get themselves into a high performance prop driven aircraft, and throw it all over the sky in some actual WWII combat tactics, and then they might get some perspective reference a computer game versus real life, and actualy understand that what they appear to have wrapped their whole lives around is just a very realistic and demanding game and nothing more..

I love the whole 'flight sim' genre, in particular WWII, but I don't turn into some sort of crusading avenger just because a game I have bought has not lived up to its expectations.. there are more real life and death issues I deal with that have a meaningful impact on my life..

Jesus.. look at me rabbiting on. Better get off this rather shaky soap box!