Anybody else think the ground is too soft?

[omgclod]

@sternjaeger II which mod? i've got ultrapack 2.0

besides, 3.0 is about to be released soon

[Redroach]

Yeah, I've gotten rid of my parachute because of this. Every time I eject, I fall down, bounce a few times and then, I'm up on my legs again, completely unhurt!

Ground too soft? Come on!

I guess CoD, despite its problems, is in a quite awkward situation: Now, everybody thinks he is the most accomplished test pilot and can figure out very subtle issues in 5 minutes, before heading to the forums and presenting his "results". Imo, this gets more and more distracting with respect to the real issues CoD has...
For an additional example, see the 'pink guys' further down this forum

[pupaxx]

The ground is too soft?...absolutely YES!
I would like to post a video to support the thread..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XuMy...layer_embedded

I was eyewitness at this event.
This is what happens in RL. I think all sims I played (Il-2 included) are to much permissive.
Cheers

[Lord-Dante]

ouch !!! dont try this at home!!!

[Sauf]

Originally Posted by pupaxx

The ground is too soft?...absolutely YES!
I would like to post a video to support the thread..

I was eyewitness at this event.
This is what happens in RL. I think all sims I played (Il-2 included) are too permissimve.
Cheers

Looks to me that he hits a small incline in that vid, pilot error, most runways iirc are flat

Just my two cents, S`

[jcenzano]

Originally Posted by Sauf

Looks to me that he hits a small incline in that vid, pilot error, most runways iirc are flat

Just my two cents, S`

they are supposed to be flat, but if you bounce like this first thing you have to do is to go full power to try to cushion the "second" landing or to go around if you can.

i don´t know whats the reaction time for that particular engine, but at least you have to try to do something. if you leave your power back, you know that the second landing is going to be nasty.

And by the way, I think that COD landings are fine. Landing an airplane (no crosswind/flat runway) IS easier than most people think.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by jcenzano

they are supposed to be flat, but if you bounce like this first thing you have to do is to go full power to try to cushion the "second" landing or to go around if you can.

i don´t know whats the reaction time for that particular engine, but at least you have to try to do something. if you leave your power back, you know that the second landing is going to be nasty.

And by the way, I think that COD landings are fine. Landing an airplane (no crosswind/flat runway) IS easier than most people think.

easy guys...

The pilot was gonna go land on the hard tarmac runway, but he touched down before it, and that little ramp shot him back up in the air.. at that point there was nothing he could do: if you give full power as you suggest it's very likely the plane will spin out of control for the massive torque, since the Merlin has some 1650HP on a huge four bladed prop.

He was lucky to come out of it with such minor damage actually (although it looks like he clipped the ground with the prop on the last bit..), but this video also shows how things do bend in real life, not just break as it happens now (or at least in IL-2 1946!).

[JG52Krupi]

That is one thing that rof still reigns supreme on with the bending/yield effect

[pupaxx]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

easy guys...

The pilot was gonna go land on the hard tarmac runway, but he touched down before it, and that little ramp shot him back up in the air.. at that point there was nothing he could do.

I clearly remember this (I was close where the vid is filmed, and the vid clearly shows what I'm saying) 'he touched down before' because... the plane approaching the runway suffered a spark misfire or something like that...anyway some power loss because of which the plane sinked on the ground and then bounced into the air ( the vid shows a puff of smoke and then u can hear the engine sound not properly harmonic!-I think the pilot gave some throttle but the engine simply flops!)
...wow the worst english I ever wrote...!!! sorry

anyway..coming back to the thread.. Il2 series have always forgiven such situations!

Originally Posted by jcenzano

they are supposed to be flat, but if you bounce like this first thing you have to do is to go full power to try to cushion the "second" landing or to go around if you can.

i don´t know whats the reaction time for that particular engine, but at least you have to try to do something. if you leave your power back, you know that the second landing is going to be nasty.

And by the way, I think that COD landings are fine. Landing an airplane (no crosswind/flat runway) IS easier than most people think.

The aircraft was airborne for less than 2.5 seconds after hitting that bump. I can't think of any aircraft that could have lessened the second touchdown or avoided it with full power applied exactly after that bump.