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Old 05-24-2011, 02:01 PM
Florinm352 Florinm352 is offline
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It is about history. Like it or not all German planes had a hakenkreuz painted on their tail. How about flying without any national markings on russian planes, because comunism was evil?
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:48 PM
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At the risk of breaking a site rule, even the British Fleet Air Arm was known to use the swastika. This is a Blackburn Dart landing on HMS Furious in 1926. The use of the swastika by Finnish Air Forces pre-dated the rise of the nazi's in Germany. However laws are laws and some national sensitivities are understandably greater than others.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...titled-1-9.jpg

Don't click on the link if you might be offended.

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Old 05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
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It is about history. Like it or not all German planes had a hakenkreuz painted on their tail. How about flying without any national markings on russian planes, because comunism was evil?
No it is not about history it is about politics. The luftwaffe symbol is there, so you instantly know that this plane belongs to Germany. That is enough for a flight simulator.

And the fact that you already gοt into politics discussion (the communism comment) confirms that I am right.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:04 PM
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The swastika is outlawed in several countries. Companies selling products must respect those laws or have problems. Who cares enough about a stupid swastika to create problems.

Basically, some people stupidly fixate on something like the swastika that means nothing. They just want to create issues for complaints.

Why not put a picture of "Hello Kitty" on the tail of your Axis aircraft. It would mean just about as much, and maybe even get a smile from the dude that blasts your butt out of the sky.

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Old 05-24-2011, 06:45 PM
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GENTLEMEN, LET'S FORGET ABOUT SVASTIKAS!

I'm sorry my first post generated such a squabble. I didn't mean to, and I thought my 2 previous posts made my point clear: I consider this a side issue of the game, and as it would be outlaw, the question is over (and thus any debate in this place is of questionable interest, IMHO).

I created this situation against my will. So I'll try to put an end to the argument and bring everybody round:

A famous pioneer airman said: "The first guy who painted a roundel on an airplane is a criminal".

I ain't sure, but it may be famous Brazilian pilot Alberto Santos-Dumont, who was horrified by the use of (unarmed) airplanes for military purpose when WWI started, and even more by the use of armed airplanes when they appeared. As some of you may know, he ended committing suicide, depressed by incurable disease (sclerosis) and supposedly also by the use of aircraft in warfare.

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I'd be pleased to see my 2nd initial topic debated with even more enthousiam (see next post).
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:48 PM
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The AI nav lights issue correction paved the way to better night flight experience.

I think making exhaust flames visible could be the next (easy?) step which would notably improve night fighting.

I don’t fly at night in IL2. Not because I ain’t interested, but because I don’t see I damn thing - not to say downward. Any feedback on this?

On the other hand, AIs seem to be owl-eyed. Before thinking of blinding them, the next step IMO may be to give the player a chance (to spot exhaust pipes - as RL early night fighters).

Your opinion? Any other idea to improve night flying, fighting or bombing?
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:50 PM
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Coloured flares for ground target marking
Ammo crates and fuel tanks wich can explode
Bigger smoke plumes that follow the wind direction
Turn/slip indicator mounted on the P-47 gunsights
Bigger tracers for the 50.call mgs
Option to select tracer rounds or normal rounds
Larger normandy map
West Berlin map
Multi crew
Flyable Lancaster
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:33 PM
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Flyable Lancaster
...Wellington, Defiant, He-219, Ju-88C/G
Non-flyable Hampden, Stirling
Radar antennas for Bf-110, Fw-190, Ju-88, Ar-234 (+ Coastal Command Wellington and Liberator)
Exhaust flame suppressors...
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:47 PM
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Default Ju-88 fighter version?

More seriously, is there any chance that DT continues to forge ahead with Ju-88 versions?

The torpedo bomber is a brilliant addition. The fighter-bomber (JU-88C) would be a fine continuation.

The Ju-88C was notably used over the Bay of Biscay, flying anti-shipping patrols, fighting British and American antisubmarine aircrafts, escorting Fw-200 or providing boats (and mainly U-boats) with air cover.

It was also used as a night fighter, and the Ju-88G as well.

The G-series is quite different (new fuselage, vertical stabilizer of the Ju-188...), but the C-series is based on the A-series, the main visible differences being the solid metal nose and the suppression of the ventral gondola.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:59 AM
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...Wellington, Defiant, He-219, Ju-88C/G
Non-flyable Hampden, Stirling
Radar antennas for Bf-110, Fw-190, Ju-88, Ar-234 (+ Coastal Command Wellington and Liberator)
Exhaust flame suppressors...
Wellington and Defiant are presumably off-limits because they appear in ClOD.

Radar antennas/night fighter versions exist as mods for many aircraft (Mosquito, Bf-110, Ju-88, Ar-234) and look pretty good.

Exhaust flame suppressors presupposes exhaust flames. Again, there are some very nice effects mods that accurately simulate exhaust flames, at least for some of the single-engined fighters.
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