Beautiful, but crappy arcade...

[DK-nme]

Originally Posted by StiC

I'd be interested in hearing the reasons why you think this game is so shitty.

StiC

Gladly. First of all, it is sooo arcade. Other than that, the FM of every opponent has no turning limit, no black-outs and is even faster in any aspect than you - no matter what plane you're flying.
The enemy has always the advantage, no matter what altitude you try to gain and they can always find you, even in the pit black of night (when they are high above and you try to seek cover at the deck).
And the P-51 is totally broken - it climbs like a freighttrain and turns like ferry (that means not at all) and cant turn the slighliest to the left, not without snaprolling followed by an iminant total stall...
There's no feeling with the stick and the controls in game. I jerk and work with the joystick, but to no avail. The plane seems to have it's life on its own.
So yes, I find this game very bad...

DK-nme

[irishjg10]

I bet you're a single guy. Most of us who adore our "alternative life" online are married or shacked up ! We're very easy to please I guess !!! LOL

No seriously you're not getting the full picture. It's the comradeship, esprit de corps, the lads getting together, fannying around, laughing, joking, shouting, swearing, spitting, crashing, burning, dodgeing, weaving, ducking and diveing, f'ccking and skiveing. All that is what makes this game .... BEAUTIFUL.

[DK-nme]

Originally Posted by irishjg10

I bet you're a single guy. Most of us who adore our "alternative life" online are married or shacked up ! We're very easy to please I guess !!! LOL

No seriously you're not getting the full picture. It's the comradeship, esprit de corps, the lads getting together, fannying around, laughing, joking, shouting, swearing, spitting, crashing, burning, dodgeing, weaving, ducking and diveing, f'ccking and skiveing. All that is what makes this game .... BEAUTIFUL.

Hmmm, this game doesn't bring all that to me. Il-2 sturmovik 1946 did and still does. And if I wanted comradery, I would have joined the army or a local soccer-club.
Being a nerd when it comes to games and authenticity(I LIKE SIMULATION!), well yes, that's me (but that doesn't make me single - I didn't get that part of ur answer and is definitely not single!).

But all those qualities you just mentioned, are likely to fit any well-build/modelled game (FPS'es, simulations and so on)...

[Gilly]

Originally Posted by DK-nme

Gladly. First of all, it is sooo arcade. Other than that, the FM of every opponent has no turning limit, no black-outs and is even faster in any aspect than you - no matter what plane you're flying.
The enemy has always the advantage, no matter what altitude you try to gain and they can always find you, even in the pit black of night (when they are high above and you try to seek cover at the deck).
And the P-51 is totally broken - it climbs like a freighttrain and turns like ferry (that means not at all) and cant turn the slighliest to the left, not without snaprolling followed by an iminant total stall...
There's no feeling with the stick and the controls in game. I jerk and work with the joystick, but to no avail. The plane seems to have it's life on its own.
So yes, I find this game very bad...

DK-nme

First of all nice way to introduce yourself to the forum, I'm sure you've impressed the mods with your mastery of the fine English language in your thread title. You get put what you put into this game simple as. I would also thoughly recommend, I'd even beg that you get online and play and then decide how, and I quote 'shitty' this game is.
Edit: in hindsight actually don't bother stick to your PC.

[StiC]

Originally Posted by DK-nme

Gladly. First of all, it is sooo arcade. Other than that, the FM of every opponent has no turning limit, no black-outs and is even faster in any aspect than you - no matter what plane you're flying.
The enemy has always the advantage, no matter what altitude you try to gain and they can always find you, even in the pit black of night (when they are high above and you try to seek cover at the deck).
And the P-51 is totally broken - it climbs like a freighttrain and turns like ferry (that means not at all) and cant turn the slighliest to the left, not without snaprolling followed by an iminant total stall...
There's no feeling with the stick and the controls in game. I jerk and work with the joystick, but to no avail. The plane seems to have it's life on its own.
So yes, I find this game very bad...

DK-nme

I wasn't trying to push your buttons I just wanted to know if you were venting frustration or being sincere. You obviously have a hardcore sim background and I can understand your disappointment in the flight mechanics offered inBoP. There was a time for me as well when it was PC or nothing, but as I got older and now have different priorities. The PC I have now was purchased with my kids in mind and will not run a modern game and older games only on reduced settings. I appreciate what this title offers to the console market because without it the skies would be lost to us and maybe someday you will too.

Take care

StiC

[MACADEMIC]

Originally Posted by DK-nme

Gladly. First of all, it is sooo arcade. Other than that, the FM of every opponent has no turning limit, no black-outs and is even faster in any aspect than you - no matter what plane you're flying.
The enemy has always the advantage, no matter what altitude you try to gain and they can always find you, even in the pit black of night (when they are high above and you try to seek cover at the deck).
And the P-51 is totally broken - it climbs like a freighttrain and turns like ferry (that means not at all) and cant turn the slighliest to the left, not without snaprolling followed by an iminant total stall...
There's no feeling with the stick and the controls in game. I jerk and work with the joystick, but to no avail. The plane seems to have it's life on its own.
So yes, I find this game very bad...

DK-nme

Hi there,

and welcome to the BOP forum. Your wording may have spilled over from the frustration that reigns at the Cliffs of Dover forums. We're a much smaller community here and usually tread much more gently. Perhaps we're also not taking ourselves and the simulation aspect of what we do here all too seriously, but believe me we do have a lot of fun together.

The P51 in the game is, as all planes are, overpowered. Topspeeds are capped which gives you a funny combination of incredible climb performance but weak level speeds. So yes, it's not such an authentic flight model.

But boy is it a joy to fly! Wings of Prey has seen a recent update which brought their P51 model to original performance specs. But the joy of flight, the ease of moving through the dimensions, is still unsurpassed here in this game. Perhaps that's why I, and others, love it so much.

Feel welcome to fly online with us sometime.

MAC

[olife]

HELLO GUYS

first welcome to DK-nme,i respect your opinion but i think console planes games are very different of pc planes games,i speak of simulation of course,the difference is ,in console(i play on ps3)we are" the POOR PARENTS " of this sort of game ,just one good simulation plane game on ps3 and this is this one...and of course your PC is powerfuller than ours consoles...
for your point of view about the p51 ,i found ,before, that this plane (an many other) was a "flying potatoe" BUT with practice (MILLIONS THANKS TO MACADEMIC TO CREATE THE P51 PURIST CLUB!!!) i became to change my opinion and now i find it good ,in fact after look for many news about the technical performance of the real planes of ww2,i find the bop planes realistic,and without to be disrespectful with the P51,which is one of the best plane of ww2,i find that a lot of guys think that this plane is "magic" and u must just fly with it in bop to kill everybody ,even if i repeat this plane is exelent,we don't forget there is a part of propaganda in all the stories of all the ww2 planes of all the nationnalities ,and the history always remenber the words and the documents of the winners...in fact i think the p51 was exelent in WW2 because it was the only plane which had a good performances in all the property of fly ,and not only in the manoeuvrability ,where some planes was better than him i think.
we don't forget too,that we are in a video game and it is totally impossible to have the real conditions of fly and tactics that in the real dogfight of ww2..
that is my opinion and i repeat,i respect your opinion DK-nme,i find this game exelent,fun ,where there are a lot of gentlemen,always a pleasure to play...!

cordialy
Olife-

[WildBoar44]

Originally Posted by DK-nme

Hmmm, this game has some very nice graphically features, but gamewise, it sucks biiig time - sorry, but that is just my humblest oppinion...


DK-nme

Hi DK..........I would really recommend you come online and sample what BoP has to offer....Yes I guess we are not Techno's....it's not in us to spend a lot of time setting up Ac's and having to worry about spec's.

That's an apeal all to it'self....No Worries..."Hakuna Matata"....we jump in and Go Fly..

Every one of the Forum members who have replied to your post will show you what the core message of what this game is.......Having Fun...making Friend's and learning thier skill's.

If it is Sim mode you want....Tag any member of the Sim main thread as friends and you will after a few hours fully appreciate why we play this game


Come in my friend....dont delay !!

[hurricane]

maybe i didn't choose the best words.seems you could have chose your words a little more carefully also.

[scottyvt4]

Hey new guy, as previous mentioned come on in jump on realistic or sim and then we will see if you like it dude.

Ze-Jamz hits on the head for you dude right down to a tea.


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