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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-16-2011, 12:25 PM
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Exactly what part of the ETO between Oct 40 to June 41 do you want that you can't do with what we have now?
IF there would have been a smaller Extension-AdOn for the given map with planes , my choice would have been a "Dieppe 42" scenario.
At least the planeset around this scenario would have brought some interesting planes to the players:
Fw190A-2/-3, as Fighterbombers too
Bf109G-1
Do217E
Spitfire V & IX (Merlin 61)
Hurricane IIb&c Fighterbombers
Mustang I
Boston III
B-17F

as examples ...
with some new ships (as BoB is realy lacking in them) and perhaps some new engine features - it would have made a nice intermediate AdOn to sell before the next BIG one with a totaly new map. And i belive making a Map for this series is a lot of work.

but this will obviously not happen
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:13 PM
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Interesting. I second that.
btw, the Dieppe 42 scenario could be combined quite easily with Cerberus 42, the Channel dash to Germany by Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen from Brest naval base. Most of the interesting map is already available, and this major operation also included ferocious air combats in Feb 42...

These kind of scenarii (both Cerberus & Dieppe), also are an excellent opportunity to tweak the whole Channel theater map, while introducing new tactical situations later in the war.

This would :
- enable the BOB aficionados to play in a tweaked environment, thus directly supporting the debug phase on CoD map;
- enable the bored ones to get new stuff, although kept at a lower cost for the dev.

This is a typical quick-win opportunity they could tend to favor to solve CoD issues...
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Old 05-16-2011, 02:35 PM
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Maybe they should go for the Rhubarbs and circuses of '41. Same map (with duxford / 12 group added etc..)

It would give the chance to fight the BoB in reverse, with the RAF fighters tied to escorting bombers at the limit of thier range and the LW fighting a defensive battle, wouldn't need too many new aircraft, could be quite quick to produce.

Other scenarios that could use the same map with additions, Dieppe (as someone said), Preparation and aftermath of D-Day, The V1-V2 offensive

Hopefully in the future some third party will design plane sets/vehicle sets to use on existing maps.
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Old 05-16-2011, 03:19 PM
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IF there would have been a smaller Extension-AdOn for the given map with planes , my choice would have been a "Dieppe 42" scenario.
At least the planeset around this scenario would have brought some interesting planes to the players:
Fw190A-2/-3, as Fighterbombers too
Bf109G-1
Do217E
Spitfire V & IX (Merlin 61)
Hurricane IIb&c Fighterbombers
Mustang I
Boston III
B-17F

as examples ...
with some new ships (as BoB is realy lacking in them) and perhaps some new engine features - it would have made a nice intermediate AdOn to sell before the next BIG one with a totaly new map. And i belive making a Map for this series is a lot of work.

but this will obviously not happen
+1000000 "Rhubarb"," "Circus", "Rodeo" and "Ramrod" missions more and more deeply in occupied territories (1941-43 sceneries), how many missions to flight!

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Old 05-16-2011, 03:56 PM
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I don't have any inside information...

I suspect the Med is next, because we could have done the COD without Italian aircraft and most people would have been content.

Look at the Italian aircraft in the COD. As I recall,... the same Italian aircraft were flown in the Med.

It really doesn't matter anyway, just talk of course.
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Old 05-16-2011, 07:30 PM
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Oleg is gone, we know it, but he did say: "Med after BoB 100%"....yes, a lot of time ago.

However now we don't need neither Moscow nor Malta but only The Battle of Britain, if possible.
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:54 PM
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Oleg is gone, we know it, but he did say: "Med after BoB 100%"....yes, a lot of time ago.

However now we don't need neither Moscow nor Malta but only The Battle of Britain, if possible.
Oleg isn't gone, he is still the head of Maddox Games, and has never said the Med would be 100% the next addon. I do agree that the Battle of Britain should be finished before thinking about the next addon. Although I'm sure they are doing some preliminary work.
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:05 PM
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I'm quite sure about this Oleg's statement, but as said above is not so important now. However considering how is going BoB, The Battle for Malta would have been probably a better choice..."Water, water, everywhere"....
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:06 PM
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I do agree that the Battle of Britain should be finished before thinking about the next addon.
You need to remember that 3D modellers don't do coding.. If I am employing a 3D modeller, I want him creating models all day every day. He will have a time line and a production schedule that is in parallel with the coders. There is no way you want to be paying a guy to do nothing just because his part of a project is done.. they move on to their next project right away.

You need to look at the big picture, fixing things will be the norma for the next 10 years. Every time an addon or new content is released there will be improvements, optimizations, new features, turning on features that are in but invisible to us now.. Its a long process.

Flight Sims require a HUGE investment of time and resources before you evr get the game to market. Its what has killed most true sims.. the model they are using is to give the engine 10 years of life..so they can continue to add new content and continue to generate revenue while they improve the whole package. If they have to keep going back to re invent the wheel you simply cannot afford to do it..
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:27 AM
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Oleg isn't gone, he is still the head of Maddox Games.
Are you 100% sure? All indications and posts indicate Oleg has left 1C or is this not the case?

Maddox Games after all is just a subsidiary of 1C (and has been since 1999). It's called 1C Maddox games which is 1C's usual way to add pattern before the name.
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