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Old 05-13-2011, 03:49 PM
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Wasn't the only reason the US decided to jump into WWII the fact those Japs bombed Pearl Harbour? Don't get any high fetched ideas about American idealism back in those days. Most americans didn't give too much of a crap about the rest of the world, like now, but yeah, they got messed with.

That joke about Canadians making good target practice is borderline sick by the way.

Oh, I'm grateful you guys did jump in in the end. But both American involvement and the later Marshall help were mainly done out of self interest (had to create a buffer against em nasty commies)
You are aboslutely right, I cant think of any war fought by any country that wasnt in self interest. Sorry about my Canadian target practice joke, maybe the line was crossed.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:52 PM
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Precision bombing my arse, bombadiers from the period have admitted it was impossible even with the fabled Norden sight, they did what every other bombadier did, watched the lead plane and dropped on their mark.

Get of your high horse fella and accept that the Good old U.S of A is just another country, no better and possibly no worse than any other.

As for your comments about the British forces out in Afghanistan, totally uncalled for, as for Iraq, in Gulf II we lost more troops to your 'precision' weapons (shoot first then deny it or refuse to allow the pilot to answer questions, even if the radio/video is in the public domain) than we did to the Iraqi's.

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Old 05-13-2011, 02:52 PM
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We ARE the free world, given this forum deals with a WW2 sim you would think some appreciation would be given to us Americans given how much help we gave the whole of Europe the UK and Russia during those years. How easy we forget... Tell ya what, the next time some crazy German decides to pwn your country(s) again, dont call us. After all, we are here for your amusement not to fight your wars right? Keep fighting these so called Americanisms (wtf does that even mean?) and us Americanismsms wont take any notice of you anyhow. Glad we could amuse you, perhaps after a few decades under some totalitarian rule you will beg us to stop making you laugh and come save your sorry ungrateful asses, again.
I am from Germany and I can assure you that right now we are not planning on invading Poland again

BTW: thanks to your great-grandfather for helping us, getting rid of Hitler 65 years ago. You were the free world back than. But since then the rest of the world kept up and in quite some parts overtook you. Time to update your view of the world.

Look how East Europe changed since the end of the cold war. It is simply astonishing. Then compare it with the change in the US. I am not talking about wars here. But stuff like SWIFT, software patents, anti-pirating lawsuits and so on really shattered my hopes for the at least still a bit free world.

so long
Mathias

P.S.: Who was asking lately for help with some totalitarians? And looking at Gitmo and DHS, I fear in a few decades there will be only one totalitarian regime left. (couldn't help that, sry)

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Old 05-13-2011, 03:32 PM
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I am from Germany and I can assure you that right now we are not planning on invading Poland again

BTW: thanks to your great-grandfather for helping us, getting rid of Hitler 65 years ago. You were the free world back than. But since then the rest of the world kept up and in quite some parts overtook you. Time to update your view of the world.

Look how East Europe changed since the end of the cold war. It is simply astonishing. Then compare it with the change in the US. I am not talking about wars here. But stuff like SWIFT, software patents, anti-pirating lawsuits and so on really shattered my hopes for the at least still a bit free world.

so long
Mathias

P.S.: Who was asking lately for help with some totalitarians? And looking at Gitmo and DHS, I fear in a few decades there will be only one totalitarian regime left. (couldn't help that, sry)

It was my grandfather actually, though he was a stationed in the Pacific with a B-29 bomber wing. He was the bombardier on the back-up flight for the Enola Gay mission actually, kinda neat.

The rest of the world kept up? LOL! I wont even begin to touch that one...I would need pages.
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