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Old 05-08-2011, 03:12 AM
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Thanks julian265, interesting stuff. How do you find the transition between axes? Is there resistance which favours a particular axis when you gently move diagonally from the centre? Difficult to explain what I mean...
I know exactly what you mean - I noticed it very much with my CH flightstick pro (although I quite liked it that way).

I see it as the static friction exceeding the dynamic friction in the bearings (as is normal), so an axis takes more effort to get moving than to keep moving, which makes the stick feel like it prefers to travel along one axis rather than at small diagonal angles.

I can feel this tendency in my uni-joint stick a bit, although I have my bearings adjusted fairly tight so that it can hold it's position (I never bothered with centering springs) and provide more resistance. See the attached image, taken from the JoyTest2 program. If the tendency was stronger, you'd see straighter lines more aligned with the axes.

If you want to avoid the axis-hugging tendency, adjust the bearing cups to get the desired (lack of) friction. Uni-joints use roller bearings, so you should be able to pretty much remove the tendency. Also, use thin or no oil in the bearings. You'll probably need something to keep the stick centered, such as springs if you do it this way.
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Old 05-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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A squad mate DIY HOTAS with U-Joint gimbal per Julian .PDF.


http://www.gavca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=18154

USB Controller L.Bodnar BU0836, Allegro A1321EUAT HALL sensor in X, Y, thottle1, 2 and rudder, slide trim's with pots.


No disassemble U-join need - in this pictures HALL not adjusted (too far from magnet).

No springs, use homemade damper with silicone as fluid:



Grip made in fiberglass, using a wooden model:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6002358...097065/detail/

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Old 05-25-2011, 09:56 AM
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Very helpful, thanks Sokol. I'm now working on a custom stick using one of Leo Bodnar's BU0836X boards and an old quad bike uni joint. Will update when I'm a bit further along - taking longer than I expected due to life getting in the way!
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:56 AM
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I know that BU0836X has 32 buttons plus hat available (yeah, should be enough I know) but has anyone used something like autohotkey to map the output of this board to keystrokes? That way you could assign a couple of the digital inputs to Control and Shift and use double-wired combinations to create even more buttons or switches. Then you would map the keystrokes in CoD.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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I know that BU0836X has 32 buttons plus hat available (yeah, should be enough I know) but has anyone used something like autohotkey to map the output of this board to keystrokes? That way you could assign a couple of the digital inputs to Control and Shift and use double-wired combinations to create even more buttons or switches. Then you would map the keystrokes in CoD.
Yes, you can use Autohotkey(advanced macros), or SVMapper (allow profiles), Joytokey (allow 16 modes), Xpader (payware)... to program BU0836 (or another USB Controller) buttons as keystrokes.

BTW - To tune axis range, set deadband, response curves, use DView or DXTweak2.

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Old 05-25-2011, 11:29 PM
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Great - axis tuning was my next question!
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:44 PM
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My squad-mate (VO101_MMaister) made KG-13 stick to his Cougar joystick. If I would have time to rasp this much ...

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