Bf109E-3

[TomcatViP]

I do agree with Kufurst

270kph climb speed was for the heavier series (G and latter) - in fact the late K cld hve had her best climb speed back to 250 due to P/W ratio.

In general the 450/70 suggest more a D model suitable for the campaign of France. And the E model captured by French and passed to Britain sustained crash before being handed over to the CeV (the test center in France). As an anecdote the ferrying pilots on that occasion would become a very famous Test pilot in France after the war ended.

It's will be surrealistic to hve a Spitfire out speeding a 109 at low alt excepting in certain conditions like a rare 100 fitted model with COLD engines. But Obviously anything diving into a 109 would gain on it.

I understand that RAF aficionados are proud and impatient to show it off. But this is not the way those brave guys did it in 1940. Pls act with respect to history.

[mcler002]

http://militaria.forum-xl.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=119

Messerschmitt Bf-109-E4 - 3/NJG1 1941

Would like that one ^

...skin wise ... maybe with a red nose...

[Bellator]

I can't figure out how they got the lift coefficient numbers so wrong. They seem to rely purely on the dubious British tests.

In clean configuration, gear up, no flaps and no slats even (+ a shorter wing), a prototyoe V24 was tested and acquired a Cl-max of 1.48. With slats and a longer wing (increasing aspect ratio), I suspect a Cl-max of atleast 1.65 in clean configuration with gear up & no flaps.

The Bf109F featured a Cl-max of ~1.7 in clean configuration according to MTT documents. So very similar.