CoD vs some other sims that model Kent?

[ICDP]

Originally Posted by Meusli

What exactly do you not like about the terrain that is done in another sim? If it is the terrain colour then we all know about that, so to does Oleg. See here;



If it's not the terrain colour then you must be on about the graphic engine which in my eyes is the best terrain we have seen modelled in a sim to this day. Of course this is in full settings that not many people can use(including myself, damned 4870x2) but as the game is polished more and more people will be able to switch these things on. Look at the pictures in the first post and tell me the other sims model the ground better, I just will not agree

OK, you are reading things in my post that I didn't write. I did not attack the terrain when I pointed out the silliness of your post about apologising to the devs "when they sort this out". You were referring to the entire game, I pointed out this was a thread about terrain. Also why should anyone apologise and thank the devs for fixing what they delivered in a broken state (now I am referring to the entire game)?

I bought CoD and would like the many very serious bugs fixed. If they are fixed then great, but I won't be thanking the devs. If they don't get fixed I will leave CoD and move on, I will also avoid purchasing anything from MG in future. There are far more serious things in life to worry about rather than a £50 game.

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by ICDP

OK, you are reading things in my post that I didn't write. I did not attack the terrain when I pointed out the silliness of your post about apologising to the devs "when they sort this out". You were referring to the entire game, I pointed out this was a thread about terrain. Also why should anyone apologise and thank the devs for fixing what they delivered in a broken state (now I am referring to the entire game)?

I bought CoD and would like the many very serious bugs fixed. If they are fixed then great, but I won't be thanking the devs. If they don't get fixed I will leave CoD and move on, I will also avoid purchasing anything from MG in future. There are far more serious things in life to worry about rather than a £50 game.

I replied to this post and have highlighted what I belive is the nonsense that people are spewing from their mouths about this sim;

Originally Posted by sigur_ros

Maddox Games and Gaijin Studio should unite. Gaijin make good graphical engine with advanced lighting and effects, they know how to optimize and what England looks like. Maddox can then do what it does best: cockpits, damage modeling and tiny pointless detail.

I also never said anyone was to thank the devs for fixing the sim, please show me where if I did. What I did say though was people who are talking nonsense should say they are sorry when it comes to the sim being fixed and there statements don't hold up any more.
Perhaps if you understood what I was saying in my first post in this thread then we would not be having this discussion as I am doing nothing you are accusing me of.

[unreasonable]

Originally Posted by Screwball

Worth noting that high pressure isn't particularly good for more localised air quality/visibilty as with very little wind (associated with high pressure systems) there's nothing to clear the air. A prime example of this is the recent urban smog alerts that were out across the UK. Smoke, sea fog, pollen/dust etc etc - all tend to linger at low altitude during periods of high pressure.

Also worth noting that fires aren't just for heat. I grew up in rural Somerset, and it would be unusual for fires not to be kept in throughout the year. The haze of woodsmoke on still summer evenings being a memorable and evocative feature Of course there are added benefits of the warmth in winter, but hot water, laundry, cooking etc all need to be done regardless of the season! Whilst I realise this isn't particularly applicable to London, it is applicable to the rest of the map that isn't London ...mind you, if the devs are worrying about getting the right levels of smoke from domestic chimneys then they'll already have done enough to get the game looking great!

Looks like I did get to opine after all

Screwy

As a townie I can say that I thought woodsmoke was a brand of cigarette....London cooking and water heaters mostly powered by gas from the gasworks so while an indirect product of coal burning not requiring domestic use. Laundry only washed once a week anyway, I suppose everyone just got used to the pong. I was not aware that Zumerset yokels washed at all, but that is the wonder of forums, one learns so much!

Of course you are right about the high pressure - I just caught the end of the era of great London smogs and these always occurred during winter anticyclones.

[W0ef]

Just wanted to add two piccies I happened to take while testing some stuff earlier





Three blue lines on horizon is the annoying ATI bug btw.

Peace out.

NVidia CP, Digital Vibrance down to 34% (or whatever your taste), colours sorted.

[reflected]

Look at this. Not as rich in ground objects as CloD, but very nice nontheless. Great atmosphere.

[W0ef]

@Reflected

I love RoF and am happy to play both that game and CoD, both for their own merits.

CoD imo sure has come a long way since first release and so has RoF

Peace.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Originally Posted by W0ef

@Reflected

I love RoF and am happy to play both that game and CoD, both for their own merits.

CoD imo sure has come a long way since first release and so has RoF

Peace.

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[W0ef]

Originally Posted by SsSsSsSsSnake

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Why the questionmark? Reflected posted a RoF (Rise of Flight) screenshot and I gave my opinion about it. I think both RoF (Rise of Flight) and CoD (Cliffs of Dover) look good at portraying a believable landscape and are great sims in their own right and both have/will come a long way even more in the future.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

If you click on the Advanced settings, you can actually switch the vignette off. Also, if you have a couple of minutes to spare, you can set a colur profile up for the game in your Graphics driver and tone the Green down, it's a users choice.

What I have found is that Gaijin do actively listen to their purchasers and, for a small studio, do try and add user suggestions to patches.

The FM was much complained about regarding the P-51, now, after patch 1.0.3.7 the aircraft handles way better and is far more accurate as are many of the others. Gaijin listen!

I'll restate "every sim has it's merits", I am currently finding that WoP Developers are actively doing their best to please the comsumers they have and include suggestions from their forums.

I find (for now) Cliffs of Dover suggestions aren't about improving the software to add more content, for instance the lack of ships, they are about fixing the current 'Gold' software so it can be released officially in America in a 'fit-for-purpose' condition.

Yes that is a dig at CloD, but if I enjoy a game (WoP), why should I have someone else tell me I am wrong and shouldn't dare even consider anything other than the child of IL2:1946. Currently, CloD is exactly that, 'a Child', however it will grow (with support) into and Adult and be, I am sure, an exceptional product, for now however, I have all the graphical effects I want in WoP, draw distance without building popping up out of no-where,improved Flight-Models, New Camera positions being added for replays, HDR lighting and most of all......FUN!!!!

It also runs on a 'normal' computer and not a Beast (which I do own!).

I can't change your mind, as I don't even consider playing RoF, it's not that I don't think it's good, I just don't want to fly in a WW1 aircraft. Again, that'll be my choice, not yours?

If you take part in a game/simulation and after sitting there you come away from it having enjoyed yourself, why is it such a big issue for anyone to say "how dare you think that it is better than this game!"

WoP is great fun and enjoyable. IL2:1946 is still on my HD as a stock 4.10.1 and alos modded with HSFX 5.01 and they will always stay there.

I have CloD installed, but due to framerate, bug issues, I have only tried it 2-3 times since installing it. I just don't find it
A) Value for money and B) FUN!

I do know though, that once you guys have spent your time fixing the bugs for 1C it will be a great game (running on all 4-Cores, using 12GB of my Ram and also in SLI), but for now.....I'm having fun with WoP and HSFX 5.01.

But guys, enjoy what you fly, just don't tell me your choice is better than mine.....it never will be, and that is in my eyes and yours!

Cheers, MP

+3+ (oh btw my comment on the COD picture was a joke, althoug they are 2d textures )