CoD vs some other sims that model Kent?

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It seems unrealistic to simulate lots of smoke from fireplaces for a battle that was fought in the summer.

London in 1940 was very smoggy.. Industry didn't just stop because it was summer, and fireplaces were still lit... (I just asked my great uncle who lived in London in 1940 and watched the battle overhead)

Haze is visable in these shots from summer 1940.

[David Hayward]

Haze over London would be realistic. Have over all of England, not so much.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Haze over London would be realistic. Have over all of England, not so much.

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

We definitely have different standards for what is hazy, because I see virtually no haze in your photographs.

THIS is hazy:

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

Wow - same for me. NZ weather is probably the closest I have lived in vs england. Going from NZ to Melbourne was very strange as the light/heat there is much more intense.

Also as others have said it was probably a hell of alot worse then, they would of been burning alot of coal and that lets out black smoke/smog because at that time it was not filterd (correct me if I am wrong). That stuff doesnt just vanish, it gets blown/spread around. When I lived in singapore some days I wouldnt go outside because the city was so chocked with smoke from the forests being burnt in Malaysia and Indonesia (turned into cropland), you couldnt see more than a few hundred feet. Of course thats a different scale, but thats also hundreds of miles of sea and islands in between.

[whoarmongar]

Gordon Bennett, yew lot are gettin in a right `ol two an eight about this visability/haze fingy.
Its clear non of yew av ever sin a right royal pea souper coz if yew ad yew would know you cant see yer brassband in front ov yer boat an thats no lie !

Now I dont wanna get into a read an write about this but CoD does look a bit sexton blake an thats for sure.

My ol nan bless er soul told me about it an she said they was down in kent hop pickin an used to watch them jerries an our boys fightin it out above em. She said you could hardly see em but the sky was full of swirly clouds in circles an sometimes you would hear an engine clear as day.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by whoarmongar

Gordon Bennett, yew lot are gettin in a right `ol two an eight about this visability/haze fingy.
Its clear non of yew av ever sin a right royal pea souper coz if yew ad yew would know you cant see yer brassband in front ov yer boat an thats no lie !

Now I dont wanna get into a read an write about this but CoD does look a bit sexton blake an thats for sure.

My ol nan bless er soul told me about it an she said they was down in kent hop pickin an used to watch them jerries an our boys fightin it out above em. She said you could hardly see em but the sky was full of swirly clouds in circles an sometimes you would hear an engine clear as day.

Superb!

[Mysticpuma]

Basically, this thrad is a "My Dick's better than yours!"

Each Sim has it's merits and failings.

Currently I am very, very impressed with Wings of Prey and the Developer's continue to improve it.......while listening to their customer feedback.

The Gaijin Studio is small, has only been running 2-years in Flight Sims and yet has produced Software for PC, PS3 and 360. They have created Two flight simulations including Apache Air Assault and this is in a very short business life-span.

Consider that to the experience and time that IL2 has had to update 1946 and then create CloD and it's not a fair comparison.

I am truly impressed with WoP and the new patch which vastly improves the FM of current aircraft.

I do know that in the future CloD will of-course be as good as IL2 1946 was, but lets also be honest and say that WoP on full Graphics settings, at 1920x1200 runs on very humble systems. I love the particle effects, water and oil on the cockpit, draw distance....it blows me away.

That is MHO, but I can't change anyones choice, I can just make mine, and for now I have CloD installed, but am only flying WoP until maybe 3-4 months down the line when CloD becomes a Gold release rather than a Beta European and Russian test for the American market!

However, I like WoP, here's why;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jEHBR1zxjs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WrpnY5wkVc

and this dogfight video I made....look at the Oil effect on the Cockpit;

http://blip.tv/file/5040605

Now Gaijin are working on a new product and whether you like it or not, just look how fast that terrain is generated in the software.....amazing:

http://skydivegame.com/en

Finally I look forward to Ground Attack Missions in Wings of Prey or the upcoming Wings of Prey 2, because if you look at these effects from Apache the ground effects will be incredible!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg90OIciUAc

Cheers, MP

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

However, I like WoP, here's why;
Cheers, MP

Hello MP!

I only watched the first clip, but er, hmm.......... Your post wouldn't have anything to do with there being no P-51's in the BoB would it?!

But I still see cheap sunglasses. I also notice that the P-51 had as much trouble staying on the runway as the Blenheim in CoD.

I enjoy making little films myself, even though I'm hopeless at it, and if you want the 'period look' I see your point, but for the feel of 'being there', CoD still has my vote, simply for the sky.

Earlier on I popped out for an Indian takeaway. 8.00pm, not a cloud in the sky, low angled sun hitting the trees in Woolton Woods, I looked at the sky and the trees and thought 'Yep, Oleg got it spot on'.

It's just the midday lighting that still bothers me a bit.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

The Gaijin Studio is small, has only been running 2-years in Flight Sims and yet has produced Software for PC, PS3 and 360. They have created Two flight simulations including Apache Air Assault and this is in a very short business life-span.

Consider that to the experience and time that IL2 has had to update 1946 and then create CloD and it's not a fair comparison.

I am truly impressed with WoP and the new patch which vastly improves the FM of current aircraft.

I do know that in the future CloD will of-course be as good as IL2 1946 was, but lets also be honest and say that WoP on full Graphics settings, at 1920x1200 runs on very humble systems. I love the particle effects, water and oil on the cockpit, draw distance....it blows me away.



Cheers, MP

+1

I think there's a tendancy on here to jump all over WoP almost out of self defence.

I like what Gaijin are doing, which is basically bluring the edges of sim/video game. They are getting people interested in Sims again, people who got out of PC gaming. (CFS3 killed it for me) I bought 1946 for the first time last year, because of BoP.

They make cinematic games, with simulation elements. I think they were surprised about how much critiscm they got for 'dumbing it down' and they are getting more serious about FM/DM (platform limitations excepted).

They seem passionate about flight, they also seem to be able to make money from it. I hope that they continue to grow and develop the BoP/WoP series and as a by product titles like CoD and RoF get the benefit of the people who catch the bug and want to take it further.