CoD vs some other sims that model Kent?

[philip.ed]

Big-Pickle: aye, I remember there being some comment regarding hedgerows, but then again, a lot of things were said in those development threads.
The team must have a massive list of features which can be added or improved, and rumours are that many features are there, but haven't been completed by the team for inclusion in the sim....(or are there, but haven't been unlocked yet)

ideally, development would be thus:
-bugs are fixed so the game is nice and smooth
-features are improved
-the team announces new features, or present features which have been drastically changed e.g a new weather system, with realistic clouds (yes Dutch! the clouds are rather poor afterall )

-once the game has been improved to a level where it is rather awesome, tools can then be sent out to the community for an administered modding effort, or a community modding effort which won't affect online play (with the banning system in place, a modding community like SAS could propser nicely).

hopefully this would enable the game to work it's way to becoming a stand-out BoB simulator.

a man can dream

[David Hayward]

It seems unrealistic to simulate lots of smoke from fireplaces for a battle that was fought in the summer.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It seems unrealistic to simulate lots of smoke from fireplaces for a battle that was fought in the summer.

London in 1940 was very smoggy.. Industry didn't just stop because it was summer, and fireplaces were still lit... (I just asked my great uncle who lived in London in 1940 and watched the battle overhead)

Haze is visable in these shots from summer 1940.

[David Hayward]

Haze over London would be realistic. Have over all of England, not so much.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Haze over London would be realistic. Have over all of England, not so much.

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

We definitely have different standards for what is hazy, because I see virtually no haze in your photographs.

THIS is hazy:

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

disagree, England is often hazy in summer today.

compared to other countries i've lived in its something i've always noticed, especially Australia.

you can see it in the photos i've posted above from last summer, and there about as clear a day as you get.

Clod does this really well.

Wow - same for me. NZ weather is probably the closest I have lived in vs england. Going from NZ to Melbourne was very strange as the light/heat there is much more intense.

Also as others have said it was probably a hell of alot worse then, they would of been burning alot of coal and that lets out black smoke/smog because at that time it was not filterd (correct me if I am wrong). That stuff doesnt just vanish, it gets blown/spread around. When I lived in singapore some days I wouldnt go outside because the city was so chocked with smoke from the forests being burnt in Malaysia and Indonesia (turned into cropland), you couldnt see more than a few hundred feet. Of course thats a different scale, but thats also hundreds of miles of sea and islands in between.

[whoarmongar]

Gordon Bennett, yew lot are gettin in a right `ol two an eight about this visability/haze fingy.
Its clear non of yew av ever sin a right royal pea souper coz if yew ad yew would know you cant see yer brassband in front ov yer boat an thats no lie !

Now I dont wanna get into a read an write about this but CoD does look a bit sexton blake an thats for sure.

My ol nan bless er soul told me about it an she said they was down in kent hop pickin an used to watch them jerries an our boys fightin it out above em. She said you could hardly see em but the sky was full of swirly clouds in circles an sometimes you would hear an engine clear as day.

[DogTailRed2]

Originally Posted by winny

London in 1940 was very smoggy.. Industry didn't just stop because it was summer, and fireplaces were still lit... (I just asked my great uncle who lived in London in 1940 and watched the battle overhead)

Haze is visable in these shots from summer 1940.

The last picture is a pub overlooking Vauxhall. The Elephant and Castle statues on the pub still exist. I lived in the Elephant and Castle which is just down the road. I used to work approximately with the same view of that picture.

[unreasonable]

Originally Posted by winny

London in 1940 was very smoggy.. Industry didn't just stop because it was summer, and fireplaces were still lit... (I just asked my great uncle who lived in London in 1940 and watched the battle overhead)

Haze is visable in these shots from summer 1940.

Very nice photos, thanks..... but except for the first one, they could not have been taken before 7th September since there are extensive areas of bomb damage.

Anyway, they do not address the question of haze since they may well have been taken on cloudy days which are the norm in the UK, due to the prevailing damp westerly airstream off the Atlantic, as we all agree.

The issue is the haze level during periods of high pressure, which is what CoD with a weather setting of "fine" and no clouds should be emulating. IMHO it is about right, but the London area should have an overlay of grey haze, fairly thin from May-October and thick and horrible in November-April.

BTW Although coal was not rationed until 1941 it was in scarce supply in London during the BoB as the LW had been sinking the coal convoys, so the power stations had first priority IIRC (not of the war, of a source ). As a child in London during the 50s I can assure readers that only the richest and most extravagant would have lit coal fires during the summer months indeed until until well into October. We wore extra sweaters on chilly days.