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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-30-2011, 08:09 PM
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CoD, as it is now, IS already fun to play for the majority of buyers.
Have i already said that there is no alternative?
I have logged over 60 hours in the game so far. 1c must have done something right.
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:35 PM
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Okay, so 6 months is it then to make my $$ worth a while? Fine, let's wait and see...

What's the matter with writing/editing batch files anyway? Hehe, that sets you folks really apart from us "instant gratification crowd", doesn't it?
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:56 PM
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Let's leave the script kiddies out of this, eh?

I am talking about people with *some* programming knowledge and appreciation of what is involved with programming a complex game such as this, rather than just having the ability to press the "Add Troll Comment" button...

To be honest, I've not seen fanboi trolls like these on here since the late '80s / early '90s, back when there was the Amiga vs. Atari troll war...
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:55 PM
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No one is "warring" anyone; at least I'm not. If you want to go ad hominem, thats your call, dude.

My statement still stands: CoD is in no way, shape or form to be considered a finished product.

Btw: I've worked on certain large-scale programming projects, too (nothing graphical, though). Don't pretend you're the only one who knows what he's talking about.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:23 PM
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My statement still stands: CoD is in no way, shape or form to be considered a finished product.
Well I think we can all agree that it's obviously not finished. But I hope it never is. That's the IL2 legacy. It's an ongoing WIP. The original series (10+ years and still going) is still being updated/patched.

Virtually every single Friday update that was shown for IL2COD clearly stated WIP as well. I'm just going out on a limb and saying bugs, problems, faults with the game, were almost expected to be there based on the WIP part alone. What I don't get is where the devs ever said anything along the lines of "Our perfectly finished game is being released on March 25th." Instead, the last couple friday updates shown before the release even clearly said WIP.

If you can find me a link to where the devs ever said anything about finalized or a perfect running game (especially after seeing years of updates stated WIP) I'll eat my shorts.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:32 PM
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I'm not pretending to be anything... I also don't wish to allude that you are trolling me either or that we do this ad nauseum (yes, I do understand Latin).

All I'm saying is that I agree with you that this game is a "work in progress" just as much as Windows Vista was until it was patched. Maybe the pictures and videos released before the launch got people so worked up about it that 1C felt that they were heavily pregnant with obligation to launch it, even though it wasn't 100% finished. There may have also been pressure from Ubisoft to launch no matter what, while the community was sexed up about it.

Either way, it's out now and it's being worked on. It just needs time and patience, something that seems to be sadly lacking. If people think they have been sold a pup and it's not fit for purpose, they can always ask for a refund, although the fact that they have signed up on here to vent their spleens about it tells me that they want something more than a refund, as they can see a diamond in the rough.

If people want instant gratification that badly, they should maybe go and rent a hooker...

I've had my two cents now.
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Old 04-30-2011, 11:28 PM
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I'm not pretending to be anything... I also don't wish to allude that you are trolling me either or that we do this ad nauseum (yes, I do understand Latin).

All I'm saying is that I agree with you that this game is a "work in progress" just as much as Windows Vista was until it was patched. Maybe the pictures and videos released before the launch got people so worked up about it that 1C felt that they were heavily pregnant with obligation to launch it, even though it wasn't 100% finished. There may have also been pressure from Ubisoft to launch no matter what, while the community was sexed up about it.

Either way, it's out now and it's being worked on. It just needs time and patience, something that seems to be sadly lacking. If people think they have been sold a pup and it's not fit for purpose, they can always ask for a refund, although the fact that they have signed up on here to vent their spleens about it tells me that they want something more than a refund, as they can see a diamond in the rough.

If people want instant gratification that badly, they should maybe go and rent a hooker...

I've had my two cents now.
Yeah, well, I'll opt for "Instant Gratification" then (isn't that the whole point of buying a game in the first place? Otherwise, you could just... start to program). But if burning 50€ for half the game now, half of it maybe later fits your needs better, then hey, more power to you!
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:25 AM
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TBH I burned more cash than that on a crappy version of Windows Vista.... until I saw sense and replaced it with Windows 7. maybe I should have waited, but this sounds somewhat familiar.....

I could argue that the money spent on Vista was for a half-finished version of Windows 7, but that's another story.

For now, I'm prepared to wait it out and have faith, as I see this game evolving into something truly epic.
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:02 AM
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Let's leave the script kiddies out of this, eh?

I am talking about people with *some* programming knowledge and appreciation of what is involved with programming a complex game such as this, rather than just having the ability to press the "Add Troll Comment" button...

To be honest, I've not seen fanboi trolls like these on here since the late '80s / early '90s, back when there was the Amiga vs. Atari troll war...

I'm not going to make any mod for this till it's optimized as i don't want to do what devs didn't
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:55 AM
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I'm not going to make any mod for this till it's optimized as i don't want to do what devs didn't
Love your work by the way.
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