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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-25-2011, 05:34 PM
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The Allies forbidden the use of the swastika in germany after the war. Later it was adopted by german law.
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Old 04-27-2011, 04:54 PM
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Toy is the problem, being categorised as a toy sees this rule apply, one must not see swastikas on toys, quite right, if they are nothing to do with recreating a historical item, but the classification of a flight simulation that is designed to be an accurate (in theory) recreation on screen of the Battle of Britain, a recreation of an historical event, as a toy is wrong. The developers could have had an accurate looking sim Luftwaffe wise if they had pulled this out of the toy category. I dont see children being able to afford latest spec PC's with 1Gb video cards so as to play with a toy. If re-classification is possible as something other than toy then do it. Perhaps all flight sims are auto labelled as toys, an airliner flight sim is a toy. Is anything that a child can get to play with, a toy ? or get to read ? If they pick up daddies WW2 book and see a Luftwaffe aircraft in it, then the book worlds must re-categorise their books as childrens books. The rule is simply nuts. The vast majority of flight simmers are not children. The vast majority of book readers of WW2 are not children, let the same rules apply.

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Old 04-27-2011, 05:00 PM
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..it's the law guys, get over it

I do model kits in my spare times and Revell of Germany doesn't put swastikas in their kits.. it's silly, it's not by forbidding a symbol that you stop an ideology, neo-nazis are out there regardless of your swastikas on your plane..
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:02 PM
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Toy is the problem, being categorised as a toy sees this rule apply, one must not see swastikas on toys, quite right, if they are nothing to do with recreating a historical item, but the classification of a flight simulation that is designed to be an accurate (in theory) recreation on screen of the Battle of Britain, a recreation of an historical event, as a toy is wrong. The developers could have had an accurate looking sim Luftwaffe wise if they had pulled this out of the toy category. I dont see children being able to afford latest spec PC's with 1Gb video cards so as to play with a toy. If re-classification is possible as something other than toy then do it. Perhaps all flight sims are auto labelled as toys, an airliner flight sim is a toy. Is anything that a child can get to play with, a toy ? or get to read ? If they pick up daddies WW2 book and see a Luftwaffe aircraft in it, then the book worlds must re-categorise their books as childrens books. The rule is simply nuts. The vast majority of flight simmers are not children. The vast majority of book readers of WW2 are not children, let the same rules apply.

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What's the point in even discussing it?
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:20 PM
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You can put swastika on the skins and be done with it, without having to use a hack to do it.
It takes 5 minutes to add swastika on a skin.

You won't be able to use them on the default skins, but with time, once the SDK is released, we will be able to use something like the Mat Manager to do it legally, without having to rely on hacks and worry about a ban.
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:28 PM
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Toy is the problem, being categorised as a toy sees this rule apply, one must not see swastikas on toys, quite right, if they are nothing to do with recreating a historical item, but the classification of a flight simulation that is designed to be an accurate (in theory) recreation on screen of the Battle of Britain, a recreation of an historical event, as a toy is wrong....
Dude, look at this for a second:



Do you know what that Pegi16 means. It means this GAME is perfectly legal for children sixteen and up.
As much as you try to think this is something else, it still is nothing but a GAME.
Get used to it. I have the two awesome FW-190 addons for FSX and those too came without a swastika. Games are considered toys by the law and this one is no different.
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:32 PM
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guys, the swastika is forbidden PERIOD, doesn't matter if it's a game, a uniform or your grandma's hand knitted scarf..
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:04 PM
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Ah the old topic again! How about the markings for Tomania?

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Old 04-27-2011, 09:42 PM
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Ah the old topic again! How about the markings for Tomania?

Why not, there are the markings from

Benzino Napoloni already in the game.
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:15 PM
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I don't have COD yet....but thanks for creating more historically accurate skins.

I will point out that the JU-87 skins should have the Balkenkreuzen with the wide white 'borders', just like your Bf 109 Blakenkreuzen...not the thin pre-war, pre-BofB narrow white bordering.

S!

EDIT: Sorry. I now understand that you have only added the Hakenkreuzen to the default skins...on which 1C used the incorrect Balkenkreuzen. I guess we'll have to wait for 3rd party skins made from scratch to correct the historical inaccuracies.

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