Spitfire going the wrong direction...

[IvanK]

Err No.

Heading indicator is spot on. you are making the same error that many RAF pilots made, There was a real Human factors issue with this compass.

1. Align Compass verge ring such that Parallel lines are parallel with the big pointer with a small cross bar on the top.
2. To remove the ambiguity ensure the red N is being pointed to by the large needle with crossbar.
3. Read the Magnetic heading from the blue text ... (or 12 O'clock position on the compass verge ring)
4. set this on the DG. Also note DG gyro precession is modelled as well, as are compass turning and acceleration errors.

There is a good description on this forum.

As to the AH ... search the forums for the discussion. Basically Gyro precession and toppling are modelled.

I have navigated all over this map using the RAF compass and DG system it works well if used as it was designed to be used.

[whoarmongar]

[QUOTE=IvanK;272826]Err No.

Heading indicator is spot on. you are making the same error that many RAF pilots made, There was a real Human factors issue with this compass.

And not just RAF pilots. On 23 June 1942 Oberleutnant Arnim Faber landed his FW 190 at Pembrey in South Wales, after getting disorientated in battle with Spitfires operating from Exeter, he obviously flew NW thinking he was going SE. and so handed a shiny new FW190 totally undamaged to the RAF. Fighter Command conducted performance measurements and tactical trials v the Spitfire IX (ie the latest spit at that time) and concluded that the FW190 climbed better between 15000-23000ft and had a better role rate. As at this time the majority of RAf Spits were MkVs this was a bit of an eye opener for them.

[senseispcc]

[QUOTE=whoarmongar;272854]

Originally Posted by IvanK

Err No.

Heading indicator is spot on. you are making the same error that many RAF pilots made, There was a real Human factors issue with this compass.

Sorry but Biggin Hill is South East of London not north West. It is not the compass it is the direction indicator just above the compass.
For the artificial horizon it get stuck and stay there in a random corner of the instrument, in a real aircraft you can cage it and when flying horizontal uncage it for fly with the instruments or is it impossible to fly at night without horizon outside, if this is true good luck to land at night.

[BadAim]

What Ivan was saying is you have to set the Direction Indicator by the compass, it's not set when you start out.

[senseispcc]

Originally Posted by BadAim

What Ivan was saying is you have to set the Direction Indicator by the compass, it's not set when you start out.

If you start in flight how do you set the direction indicator, no mouse avaible in my cockpit.
If you find this funny why is it not the same in the Hurricane?

[Sternjaeger II]

Guys,you need to bear in mind that whilst we like yanking our planes all over the place with violent manoeuvres,in real life u avoid that as much as possible. Precession and gyro tumbling are extremely accurate and probably unprecedented in the sim world.

[whoarmongar]

Its exactly the same in the damn Hurricane. This is a sim. in 1940 the gyro was uncageable. Go to your settings and apply some keys to set the compass and DirIndicator,use glance at dashboard and move the stick out the way to see clearly, just make this part of your preflight routine before takeoff and if your still confused read some posts,if you start in flight post patch the DI is auto set for you. If your gyro has toppled its still posible to fly blind, you have other instruments it just takes practice, speed is your best indicator ie slowing =climb, speeding up= down, and you have other turn indicators as well, try it, topple your instruments then just fly on your dashboard view, its difficult I grant you but it is possible. as for landing blind well I cant I make sure im home before dark.

[IvanK]

Originally Posted by senseispcc

If you start in flight how do you set the direction indicator, no mouse avaible in my cockpit.
If you find this funny why is it not the same in the Hurricane?

Exactly as I indicated in my post use the 4 steps. Determine current heading from the main compass, then set the DG on that heading .... then turn on to your desired heading using the DG.... thats exactly how its meant to work and exactly how it works in game.

If you dont want to use the mouse then set the appropriate keybindings to adjust the compass and DG courses.

[senseispcc]

Originally Posted by IvanK

Exactly as I indicated in my post use the 4 steps. Determine current heading from the main compass, then set the DG on that heading .... then turn on to your desired heading using the DG.... thats exactly how its meant to work and exactly how it works in game.

If you dont want to use the mouse then set the appropriate keybindings to adjust the compass and DG courses.

Give US then thousand pages of technical manual to fly this things?! NO? how strange!