Mini-update from devs

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

But thats my point there dave, i think the problem is trust, some people dont trust them and this has brought on all this whining.

People don't have any choice but to trust them. We don't have any other options. There is no one else producing WW2 flight sims.

Having said that, I think 777 is hinting that they might do a WW2 sim. If they do it will be probably be loaded with bugs at release. It's just the nature of the beast.

[[MAG]Pappy]

The situation as it exist now is that those that purchase the game have paid for a Release Candidate (RC). Even at that I would not rate this game as an RC. Looks more like a beta version.

From what I can tell the developers ran out of money and are selling an unfinished game to get an influx of funds.

Dave maybe thats why there is the whining, between a rock and a hard place, though i think its nothing to do with flight sims i think some people now have the "believe it when i see it" bug.

Tthe IL2 community is sounding so dispondent, even after the first IL2 Sturmovik with its bumpy start people people didnt appear to seem so fed up, the only reason i joined the forum in 2007 was because that was when i had saved for a new pc so i could run the new IL2 46, before then i just read the forums.

But maybe your right, maybe we've been just spoilt for choice, who knows all i know is....its thursday evening and there's still no info update dagnabbit!!

[Strike]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

People don't have any choice but to trust them. We don't have any other options. There is no one else producing WW2 flight sims.

Having said that, I think 777 is hinting that they might do a WW2 sim. If they do it will be probably be loaded with bugs at release. It's just the nature of the beast.

Actually... I'd rather be seeing a day where perhaps 777 studios could create one of the expansions for this sim in a partnership with Maddox games where they would get the SDK and go crazy with it, then have maddox games do the final quality assurance.

hmm that brings up another subject of the SDK, how will us fans be able to use it and make user made mods if the mods will get us a permanent ban from steam?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Strike

Actually... I'd rather be seeing a day where perhaps 777 studios could create one of the expansions for this sim in a partnership with Maddox games where they would get the SDK and go crazy with it, then have maddox games do the final quality assurance.

It depends on whether there is a large enough market for 2 companies. It also depends on what kind of games you want to see. If all you are interesting in is WW2, and the market is not big enough for 2 companies, then it might be better if they worked together. If the market is big enough for 2 companies, you will probably get better initial quality if they are competing.

I'd like to see them work on different eras (like they are doing now). Korea, Arab/Israel, and Vietnam could all be updated. I'm willing to deal with lower initial quality in order to get more varied subjects.

[jibo]

777 may very well do a less hardcore sim, EAW type game, we have room for that and it would be great, but jason is more interested into jet sim for now

[Strike]

It just recently slipped into my head now. What would it be like, piloting the B-17, in IL-2 CloD expansion in the future? Think about it. 10 crew positions, full switch cockpit, norden bombsight, .50 cal turrets, damage model!!!, fire extinguishers, perhaps manual opening of bomb-bays and lowering of wheels in a different crew-position than the pilot's view. You could basically release a SINGLE third party expansion and call it B-17. Fly huge online Co-ops over germany/france against 190's, 109's and such.


Or imagine skimming the wavetops in a F4U firing those six .50's at japanese merchants etc with advanced ship damage models, perhaps set off internal cargo such as munitions etc.


Or fly an IL-2 over the russian farmland hunting for armor divisions and roll in on the attacks strafing, firing rockets all over the place.

I just cannot wait until the day the first expansion is released, say you get to climb into a 109 F-4 trop version or something and fly over the med, hunting gladiators, hurricanes, spits and such.

The future could/will be AWESOME!!

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by Strike

It just recently slipped into my head now. What would it be like, piloting the B-17, in IL-2 CloD expansion in the future? Think about it. 10 crew positions, full switch cockpit, norden bombsight, .50 cal turrets, damage model!!!, fire extinguishers, perhaps manual opening of bomb-bays and lowering of wheels in a different crew-position than the pilot's view.

Piloting one of those huge bombers like the B-17 and B-24 is something I have been aching to do for a very long time.
If we get the chance in the new Il-2 I will be one seriously happy camper.

[David Hayward]

Flyable B-17 would be VERY cool. Does anyone know why they never included it in IL-2?