BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle?

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by Space Communist

A much more sensible concession would be to simply make the default center view for the 109 (and pretty much all other German aircraft for that matter) line up with the gun-sight.

i would like press shift f-1 but without zoom.

[Rattlehead]

A simple key press to align the gunsight, but without that awful zoom feature, is all that is needed to keep everyone happy.
Like in the old series.

The uber realism crowd can simply ignore it, and those who don't mind conceding that tiny bit of realism can use it. Simple. Everyone is happy.

And about the realism...are icons and big arrows realistic? What about external views?
Maps? Minimap paths? Info windows?
Give me a break.

[Groundhog]

Rattlehead +1

GH

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

A simple key press to align the gunsight, but without that awful zoom feature, is all that is needed to keep everyone happy.
Like in the old series.

The uber realism crowd can simply ignore it, and those who don't mind conceding that tiny bit of realism can use it. Simple. Everyone is happy.

And about the realism...are icons and big arrows realistic? What about external views?
Maps? Minimap paths? Info windows?
Give me a break.

You do realize you can set this all yourself, with a mouse?

[skouras]

keep the realism please
don't take anything else......
if you want you can use the mouse hold the button and move it to align

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by Lixma

Seriously.

Over a decade of faffing about with Shift-F1, leaning over, loosening straps or whatever...i'm weary of it. Just place the damned thing in the centre of the dash! Is anyone really going to be put out by such a minor concession to usability?

Realism be hanged in this instance.

yes.

Originally Posted by Space Communist

A much more sensible concession would be to simply make the default center view for the 109 (and pretty much all other German aircraft for that matter) line up with the gun-sight.

this is the better option, or the "loosen shoulder straps" view leans you to the right. pretty much how gunsight view worked in 1946 in fact.

[335th_GRAthos]

You only need to have the "head movement restriction" while in gunsight mode REMOVED
It makes the gunsight view just like in the original IL2FB.

Rememeber please, if you are interested in this thing happening, to post your request ("remove head movement restriction while in gunsight mode") in the "bucket list"
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=23405

~S~

[Sokol1]

Non TrackIR users, NewView center Bf109 gunsight without using "loosing straps".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tBcu_3Hn9IA

Sokol1

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

Non TrackIR users, NewView center Bf109 gunsight without using "loosing straps".

Sokol1

Thanks for the video Sokol, wow!!!!!

Hmm, is there a manual in English? I foud the manual of version v33 but it is in Russian (looks Greek to me... )

~S~

[Sokol1]

AFAIK - No english manual - NewView has always been overlooked in Western forums. For non TrackIR users NewView is very usefull to improve IL-2 Pan View, but do more things, like a key/button mapper.

Notice that NewView work together with head track devices too, like TrackIr, Freetrack, Cam2Pan,URgear (?). Look at "Helmet" tab.

To CloD you need NewView version 37X - find in link below.

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=67864
This thread in Sukhoi forum is about use in CloD (BoB for then), and have some samples of how configure key to center gunsight in 109.

Use some online translator and PM Hruks (the developer), they answer in english.

The best I understand (with Google ):

After initial NewView config (language, CloD location...), set a UView (User view) to 109 gunsight:

1. Open NewVew and then minimize
2. Run CloD (BoB), go Single Mission, run mission Cross country in Bf-109, that start in cockpit at Springfield.
3. Leave sights by default. Press a key, which is responsible for German sight (I sample NunPad 0)
4. Hit Windows key and go to desktop.
5. Go to NewView Advance Settings > UView coordinates tab, check 6DOF box,
highlights UView #1 (that is key for 109 sight, and control this Uview No1, in sample is used NumPad 0) and click in 6DOF Setup.
6. UView 6DOF Setup windows open: look for section "Translation (Camera Position)" X. .., Y. .., Z. ..
Check box for all these axes, and box for Instantly and Freeze.
In drop menu in front axis select "One touch".

In the box with Up/Down keys put these values:
X = "-700"
Y = "-1600"
Z= "20"

Close "UView 6DOF Setup" window
Click in "Apply"

And now press the number 7 (not NumPad!).
This key is used in this sample to the function "Read settings from INI file (for tuning settings)". See in Assignments tab > Other.

By pressing this key (7 or some that you assign) you upload to New View the changes made in CloD profile (.INI).

Go back to CLod.
Hit "NumPad 0" and see gunsight cross centering in screen.

For different german planes you need different values for X, Y, Z - so create a UView #2, #3...

Notice that you can configure up to 30 UViews (user views), so you can configure one key to instantly look at tachometer, another to prop pitch clock, another for temp... etc.

FYI - I dont test this UView feature, if dont work, dont blame me.

Sokol1