BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle?

[tranquillity]

Oh come on, stormcrow,
just practice a little with your TrackIR and soon there won't be a reason to change a thing.
shouldn't be too hard to lean left a little for shooting.
quite a good exercise to keep your head steady. if you can not do it you really should practise..
or you try to tweak your trackIR profile.
always try to find the mistake on your end first.
I think the present solution works very well, no need to change.
sorry.

[frenchfly]

Like most of you have already stated, leave it the way it is. Put a little time in and tweak your TrackIr profiles or use the required buttons to do the job. This is a simulation not a semi-lation.

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[Widow17]

I have no problems with the gunsights and like them as they are. I think its great.

[Pluto]

... Sorry, but I can only close my right eye thats why I shoot a gun as a lefthander. Actually I am a righthander!

But I must say, the gunsights in the BF109 in Cliffs of Dover are a pain in the a... No british plane has such weird gunsights.
And its not true that german pilots had to aim with one eye closed because of their gunsights, that is rubbish!
I knew a real german pilot of that time and he would tell you its crap. The sight was not exactly positioned in the center, ok you had to lean a bit forward also ok, but you did not have to twist yourself like a corkscrew like you have to do in Cliffs of Dover just to see the crosshairs!
Aiming with only one eye is also crap, you loose the in depth perception and you have no feeling for distance anymore.

I have track-IR4 and it works well with 6DOF and all that comes with it.
I dont intend to buy track-IR5 just because of that messed up gunsight of the 109!
You can use it but you have to move and twist arround in your cockpit in order to see the crosshairs, thats rediculous and dont tell me real pilots also had to do that!
Make it usable like the one in the old IL2 flightsim (and that was not arcade)!
This one here is a joke!

I say keep the sight where it is historically but allow to switch to sight view with pressed button. I proposed a solution that me thinks does the trick and still sticks to realism as closely as possible and should allow still the immersivity and allow nonetheless to have realistic aiming with 109 sight. And it would even allow people who like the current way to continue.

Solution:
A button push should save temporarily the current head position like shift+f1 in old IL2. As long as this button is pushed this new position is maintained until the button is released. Of course head shake and g effects would be still working. So for aiming I would have to lean to the right finding the good position for aiming (which could be also quite difficult in the outcome), I press button and keep it pushed. So now my head position is locked to this saved position and I can view normally as I would with normal centre head position. I now have to steer and shoot while keeping the button constantly pushed (not THAT easy to do) in order to stay centred on sight. When I release my head will jump back to cockpit centre position. If you prefer the old ways you still could just lean right.

Those people shouting that this would dump down realism just don't understand that this thread is there because of available computer hardware which makes aiming with 109 currently absolutely unrealistic.

[snwkill]

Originally Posted by choctaw111

Close left eye---cntrl E

Trust me. It really works LOL

See that is funny because.... there is no one eye button, Ctrl+E is eject...

Apparently it needed an explanation...

[angrueo]

So, you want an arcade game.. then play HAWX 2

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by angrueo

So, you want an arcade game.. then play HAWX 2

Please don't breed.

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

If you hang realism in this instance, where do you stop? He-111's that break the sound barrier? Pe-2's with more guns that B-17s? Sooner or later you're playing Crimson Skies.

You stop before supersonic He-111s. Obviously.

But you might be right. Today it's just a visible gun-sight....tomorrow who knows where it'll lead to.....perhaps dancing?!!!

I dont even attempt to fly the 109 because of this. Shift F1 makes the view too narrow to fly the thing. Worked fine in 1946, yet another fail.

[Fafnir_6]

Back when I was flying the Ki43-I with its telescopic sight in the original IL-2, I mapped the Shift-F1 function to the spacebar. This can be hit quickly and easily without the need to co-ordinate two keys in the middle of combat. Problem solved for all aircraft needing the gunsight view.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6