Bf109E-3

[Xiola]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

i am sure the Spitfire experts will give you other dates for the Spit II soon
just in short, it fought in the BoB long before 31.october

as the not in game beeing Hurricane II too

Hi Franky,

Yeah I know it was around during the battle, but not in many numbers.

However I have since learned that the Mk1 Spitfire is a 2 pitch prop 1939 version, and not representative of a BOB Spitfire Mk1, so I retract my above statement.

What is really needed is a Spitfire mk1, CSP running on 100 octane. That is the proper 'common' Spitfire of the BOB IMHO.

[Kurfurst]

This thread is about reporting suspected FM/DM bugs about the Bf 109E-3 for the developers. Please keep it that way.

Other aircrafts have their own respective threads, discuss issues with them there.

[Hood]

The posts talking about mixture, are they referring to the occasional shudder you get in the 109, as if mixture were wrong? Is there any way to resolve this as it is very distracting when you're looking for the enemy?

Hood

[TomcatViP]

I do agree with Kufurst

270kph climb speed was for the heavier series (G and latter) - in fact the late K cld hve had her best climb speed back to 250 due to P/W ratio.

In general the 450/70 suggest more a D model suitable for the campaign of France. And the E model captured by French and passed to Britain sustained crash before being handed over to the CeV (the test center in France). As an anecdote the ferrying pilots on that occasion would become a very famous Test pilot in France after the war ended.

It's will be surrealistic to hve a Spitfire out speeding a 109 at low alt excepting in certain conditions like a rare 100 fitted model with COLD engines. But Obviously anything diving into a 109 would gain on it.

I understand that RAF aficionados are proud and impatient to show it off. But this is not the way those brave guys did it in 1940. Pls act with respect to history.

[mcler002]

http://militaria.forum-xl.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=119

Messerschmitt Bf-109-E4 - 3/NJG1 1941

Would like that one ^

...skin wise ... maybe with a red nose...

[Bellator]

I can't figure out how they got the lift coefficient numbers so wrong. They seem to rely purely on the dubious British tests.

In clean configuration, gear up, no flaps and no slats even (+ a shorter wing), a prototyoe V24 was tested and acquired a Cl-max of 1.48. With slats and a longer wing (increasing aspect ratio), I suspect a Cl-max of atleast 1.65 in clean configuration with gear up & no flaps.

The Bf109F featured a Cl-max of ~1.7 in clean configuration according to MTT documents. So very similar.