cheats allready

[kimosabi]

Originally Posted by fireship4

Another question, surely someone banned for cheating wont be prevented from playing single-player, or mp through a 3rd party browser/LAN?

It would be wrong to prevent them using the game they paid for, even if they did cheat online. It would be going too far.

You dont own the game. You agree to pay a fee for using it under their terms.

[hanuristi]

There really needs to be some kind of system to warn the user if he is attempting to join a server with a disallowed mod. Banning genuine cheaters is a good thing, but an absolute requirement is that nobody is banned for wrong reasons. Also it should be up to the server admins what mods they allow or dont. How stupid would it be to get steam banned from using some sound mod or something that the server admin has said to be ok to use?

Imho I think the RoF approach is quite a good one. You have to start the game with mods on or off. And this goes for server settings.

[nearmiss]

Looks like the old days when we were on the ZONE...

[squidgyb]

If I edit a file while mucking around in single player, forget about it and enter multiplayer - is there any warning that I may be doing something wrong?

I feel there's a massive potential for being accidentally banned with such a system. don't get me wrong, I want to stop cheaters entirely - but they definitely need to put some warning in that you may be infringing the rules.

Also - what exactly do they mean by "banning the account"? From the last few years of buying through Steam, I have several hundreds, if not over £1000 worth of games on my steam account. If that all disappears, with "no recourse" to getting it back if I'm innocent... crikey, that's a bloody sobering thought.

I might be wrong - by "account" they might mean playing online multiplayer in CoD, but I strongly suspect that any Steam account accused of cheating will be locked down entirely, and I've heard plenty of nasty stories in the past about people having their Steam accounts locked by mistake, and there's apparently very, very little you can do to unlock them.

I certainly won't be playing MP until there's some proper clarification on what files can/can't be changed, how the ban mechanics work, and hopefully some kind of warning system is in place.

[DarkCrow]

Originally Posted by squidgyb

If I edit a file while mucking around in single player, forget about it and enter multiplayer - is there any warning that I may be doing something wrong?

I like that idea in theory, but I don't know much about this stuff, couldn't that help the cheaters to know whether there hack has been detected or not? If there is no warning then they would be more afraid to use the hack.

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Looks like the old days when we were on the ZONE...

wow thats a memory and a half .... ago. whats it 10 years or somthing ?

[Extreme_One]

VAC banned accounts are only prohibited from visiting servers with VAC enabled.

VAC banned accounts can still play offline and can still join servers that have elected not to enable VAC.

[123-Wulf-123]

There are some sick little puppies with sore egos and a vengeful streak that will be posting this sort of stuff for months to come, its their twisted way of making themselves feel useful.

[squidgyb]

Originally Posted by Extreme_One

VAC banned accounts are only prohibited from visiting servers with VAC enabled.

VAC banned accounts can still play offline and can still join servers that have elected not to enable VAC.

Thanks for clearing that up for me - I'm sure a quick google would have brought up the info

That puts my mind to rest somewhat.