Fixing Roll

[bongodriver]

most of the fighters don't have aileron trim, and the roll right is an effect of torque.

[smink1701]

Oh.

Thanks

[BlackbusheFlyer]

Yes it is torque, however the effect is a little exaggerated at cruise I think. Be good if the effect curve was slightly less steep as at say 50% power there is still quite a roll more akin to full power in my opinion. Most aircraft have bendable trim tabs on the ailerons that the engineer can adjust to balance the aircraft for the cruise.

[Doc_uk]

Originally Posted by BlackbusheFlyer

Yes it is torque, however the effect is a little exaggerated at cruise I think. Be good if the effect curve was slightly less steep as at say 50% power there is still quite a roll more akin to full power in my opinion. Most aircraft have bendable trim tabs on the ailerons that the engineer can adjust to balance the aircraft for the cruise.

+1

[b101uk]

Trim the ruder (ctrl + Z or X) some of them are misplaced from the central position.

[Doc_uk]

Originally Posted by b101uk

Trim the ruder (ctrl + Z or X) some of them are misplaced from the central position.

Trimming the rudder has no or little effect on the right wing dipping

And its like i said befor, if i was a spit pilot, and this was fixable i would land and tell my crew to bloody sort it out

[b101uk]

Originally Posted by Doc_uk

Trimming the rudder has no or little effect on the right wing dipping

And its like i said befor, if i was a spit pilot, and this was fixable i would land and tell my crew to bloody sort it out

It works 100% for me at stopping the right wing dropping.

Also certainly on the hurricane by default the rudder is trimmed slightly to the right ergo educing some RH role.

You do know you don’t need ailerons and can fly with the other 2 axis.

[b101uk]

Originally Posted by Voyager

Only if you don't have to much yaw coupled roll, and generally only if you aren't to concerned about line of flight intersecting the earth. One of the Wright Brothers' big innovation was roll control, which was kind of important.

would that not be:
Only if you have enough yaw coupled roll, given "if you don't have to much yaw coupled roll" then you lack roll and have to much yaw

true its much easer the higher your wings are and the taller the rudder vs. the centreline/CoG.

don’t all flights intersecting the earth at some point?

Originally Posted by bongodriver

most of the fighters don't have aileron trim, and the roll right is an effect of torque.

regarding torque, the prop on in game spitfire & Hurricane turns clockwise (when viewed from the pilots orientation) therefore torque from the propellers resistance to the air its trying to pull the plane threw will try to make the plane role anticlockwise dropping the left wing (to every action there must be an opposite and equal reaction) after all torque must work both ways as it must push anticlockwise to push something else of an equal force clockwise.

[bongodriver]

true

[Skoshi Tiger]

If you are rolling to one side, check your turn and balance indicator. If the needle (or ball depending on aircraft)is off to one side trim to that side. As b101uk said it should help. The roll may not go away completely but you'll just have to wait until you get a plane with aileron trim.

If you are experiencing torque induced roll, then reduce your throttle until your using the recomended cruise power for your aircraft or else compensate with your ailerons.

It's a case of "Suck it up princess". This is how planes work. They teach you this in the "Basic aeronautical knowledge" section of the flight training syllabus.
Cheers

From Wiki
"
Secondary effects of controls
Rudder

Using the rudder causes one wing to move forward faster than the other. Increased speed means increased lift, and hence rudder use causes a roll effect. Also, since rudders generally extend above the aircraft's center of gravity, a torque is imparted to the aircraft resulting in an adverse bank. Pushing the rudder to the right not only pulls the tail to the left and the nose to the right, but it also "spins" the aircraft as if a left turn were going to be made. Out of all the control inputs, rudder input creates the greatest amount of adverse effect. For this reason ailerons and rudder are generally used together on light aircraft: when turning to the left, the control column is moved left, and adequate left rudder is applied.

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