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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-14-2011, 08:01 PM
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To say that it somehow replicates the real forces on the airplane in any meaningful way is also inaccurate.
It does replicate plenty but not in the same spots as in a real aircraft. Shudder that you feel from the seat and floor(legs) is felt through your stick instead. Why that is should be pretty obvious. Since you're perfectly fine with a non FFB stick I'd say that you're a visual flyer. I'm not. Have tried many times without FFB and I can't handle my aircraft on the edge at all compared to having that little shake to let me know that enough is enough.

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Old 04-14-2011, 08:29 PM
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It does replicate plenty but not in the same spots as in a real aircraft. Shudder that you feel from the seat and floor(legs) is felt through your stick instead. Why that is should be pretty obvious. Since you're perfectly fine with a non FFB stick I'd say that you're a visual flyer. I'm not. Have tried many times without FFB and I can't handle my aircraft on the edge at all compared to having that little shake to let me know that enough is enough.
Agreed with this and other words about FFB giving much needed info.

Without FFB, you can usually tell if you're about to stall by the way the aircraft is starting to react to your inputs, but with FFB you can hang on that much longer (as you learn when the stall actually occurs relative to the ammount of 'shake' you're getting) and maybe it's that extra second or two that gives you the edge.

Plus, I don't know about you, but I love the white knuckle feeling of the stick shaking when I'm firing the guns, trying to stay on target. Makes every flight more intense.

There's a lot to be said for something that 'feels' real even if it's not. That's why we get weird colour filters on WWII movies, or tracer fire that is not strictly accurate one way or the other.

I look forward to FFB being added. I'm not going to demand it be added right away, I'll just be anxiously anticipating it.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:58 PM
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Agreed with this and other words about FFB giving much needed info.

Without FFB, you can usually tell if you're about to stall by the way the aircraft is starting to react to your inputs, but with FFB you can hang on that much longer (as you learn when the stall actually occurs relative to the ammount of 'shake' you're getting) and maybe it's that extra second or two that gives you the edge.

Plus, I don't know about you, but I love the white knuckle feeling of the stick shaking when I'm firing the guns, trying to stay on target. Makes every flight more intense.

There's a lot to be said for something that 'feels' real even if it's not. That's why we get weird colour filters on WWII movies, or tracer fire that is not strictly accurate one way or the other.

I look forward to FFB being added. I'm not going to demand it be added right away, I'll just be anxiously anticipating it.
For a regular BnZ type of pilot, you might not see a big difference, they all go too fast to get much shakes from high AoA's anyway, but you are spot on when it comes to slow turn fights. It's ok to say that "you should always be fast..." but truth is, you never know where a dogfight ends up so having an edge in discontinous flight always gets you out of trouble if need be. Besides, it always feels bloody good to see your opponent stall out and become a target, or seeing that you're gaining in a slow turn.

Besides, floating around in a clean 109 at 120kph and balancing the aircraft with your pedals is just marvelous IMO. Can't do that without FFB. Atleast I can't.

The shooting I also agree with you 100%.
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Cool. Quad core optimization. I'm sooooo happy!!!!

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Old 04-14-2011, 10:04 PM
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Good stuff Lutter !

Hope for a quick solution for the annoying Launcher.exe crash.. Spent more time last night restarting the game then i did flying online.
Think the biggest issue for me is the Launcher.exe crash witch happends moast in online session.

Thanks for the great suport !

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Old 04-15-2011, 09:34 AM
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Spend £58 on the collectors version. I really hope that this patch will make the game playable on my Dell Studio 17! Runs ROF OK albeit not on Max!

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Old 04-15-2011, 11:10 AM
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Spend £58 on the collectors version. I really hope that this patch will make the game playable on my Dell Studio 17! Runs ROF OK albeit not on Max!

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Old 04-15-2011, 11:14 AM
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Last time Beta Patch was out about this time.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:18 AM
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Last time Beta Patch was out about this time.
But it was a day later than was given hope it isn't delayed again!!!
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:20 AM
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But it was a day later than was given hope it isn't delayed again!!!
This is so funny, old guys here, waiting like a child for birthdaypresent.
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