COD skin ideas

[csThor]

Originally Posted by DoolittleRaider

Opinion/question: IL-2 when first released had the same default 'absence' of the hakenkreuzen...yet there was an almost immediate "quasi-3rd party" 'fix', and it did not involve the feared "Modification" of the code!

Why would 1C have not followed the same procedure with ClOD as they did with IL-2? Why would they design ClOD to be impossible (or seemingly much more difficult) to 'fix' by some 3rd party person to allow use of hakenkreuzen by those who want them? Did anyone go to jail or pay a fine in a German court for the Hakenkreuzen "mod" used in IL-2 worldwide for 9 1/2 years???

Because since last year Russia has a new law on "national-socialist propaganda" which is as clear as stirred mud. Because it is so unclear (and because of the realities of modern Russia) 1C - the mother corporation - decided to omit any swastika from new game releases for safety reasons. As it stands now even the provision of a way to add the swastika by a gamer could (theoretically) put them in serious legal troubles. All it takes is an accuser with a grudge, a state attorney with ambitions and a judge with a bad attitude and 1C is on trial. And they seem to like their show trials over there.

[kristorf]

[Feathered_IV]

Nice job Kristorf. I've still got your Geoffrey Wellum one from the original Il-2 one of my all time favourites. Looking forward to seeing where you go with Cliffs of Dover

[LcSummers]

To all skinners!

I am no skinner, so i want to thank you in advance for any skins available in the future. All of you are making a great job.

I know that with ongoing skins CLOD will be as exited as it was IL1946.

Thanx guys for your hard work

[BOBC]

CsThor ...the mother corporation - decided to omit any swastika from new game releases for safety reasons. As it stands now even the provision of a way to add the swastika by a gamer could (theoretically) put them in serious legal troubles.

If someone in the UK or the USA mods it to show complete Luftwaffe markings for their own use, that can't be illegal , not in a country with more sense that allow historical representation. If a ruskie decides to use that then that ruskie should face the laws of his land. If Oleg was to produce model Luft kits and someone in the UK put an aftermarket tail decal on it, thats not Olegs fault, if a ruskie imported a sheet and used it, in a public place, then they know the law, but in their own home, thats ok, unless Russian police raid homes looking for sims with Luft tail markings, or model aircraft with same, or e.g. UK produced books with original Luft pics in. What if a Ruskie is flying European Air war, or BoB Wings of Victory. Are they allowed to do so, but not buy a product that shows the same artwork from a Russian company ? Just about shows how damn silly the Russian law is.

It has been pointed out on another thread that the problem lies in the fact that its not been given an 18 certificate, its a childs toy and that disallows swastikas, make it 18 cert and no longer a toy, and its ok.

Code it such that purchase from within Russia sees only the swastika free version available. Problem solved.

I will not have a Russian law depriving me in a different country of my freedom of choice that my previous generation fought and gave their lives for so as to defend that freedom, and who helped free Russia of Nazis who sought to remove such freedom, only to see it removed by the defenders so it seems.

Swastikas on tails is not going to turn Russian sim players into Nazis. A rule that has been made without any evidence to back it up.

BOBC

[csThor]

You can rant about this all you want, the issue remains the same. 1C:Maddox Games is based in Russia so for them the russian laws apply. And said laws allow for any potential interpretation so even the provision of a way to add a swastika to the in-game markings is a potentially dangerous thing for 1C. Which is why they did not make one.

Got an issue with that? Take it up with the Duma.

[Wolf_Rider]

the problem isn't the swastika itself, the problem is what the swastika came to represent (and continues to represent today) and who it offends.