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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-09-2011, 06:43 AM
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Thank you for that, also enjoyed the read.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:55 AM
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Wonderfull presentation!

Nothing like a piece of history in the morning!
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:57 AM
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Interesting, thanks. The small scale and time interval makes it quite a unique and personal situation - a battle I had not known any details about before.
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Old 04-09-2011, 07:16 AM
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Thank you!
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Old 04-09-2011, 07:27 AM
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German armoured train in Kolding











Coastal batteries at Sjællands odde



Copenhagen Harbour


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Old 04-09-2011, 07:56 AM
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Good read that, thanks.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:26 PM
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Outstanding. Thank you for posting.
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Cheers Ltbear, like others have said it's a good read. Could you explain this bit more?

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There is a huge controversy in Denmark about the 9th of April. From a week before the Invasion the Danish politicians knew that the attack would come the 8th or 9th of April. Still they send the coastal batteries personal on vacation and maintained peacetime status for most of the army.
Is there an implication they did this on purpose or was it just incompetence?
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:35 PM
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Cheers Ltbear, like others have said it's a good read. Could you explain this bit more?



Is there an implication they did this on purpose or was it just incompetence?
Well thats the problem, its the Danish version of "why was the carriers not at pearl harbour"

When looking at it it seems the Danish goverment "aloved" the Germans in, but they said no no no after the war. In mid 1930`s the Danish army was over 30.000 man strong, but in 1940 that number was down to around 8800. No proof of anything has been found, and even today this affect Danish politics. One side say no one helped the Germans with an easy take over and the other side say yes you did.

What is interesting is that no scientists are alowed to the Danish national archives unless the do there researtch with a positive attitude towards the sitting goverment in 1940...

Ya its wierd, but some documents are stil top secret even today...

strange world we live in lol...

LT
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:36 PM
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Is there an implication they did this on purpose or was it just incompetence?
They had to do it. Denmark, like Norway, never had enough personell in 1940 to deal with the Germans. Initially, Operation Barbarossa alone amassed over 4 million German soldiers. Just to put some perspective on it. Doesn't matter how competent you are if you try to resist something like the German army in 1940 when all you have is 1/100 of their force. It would have been suicide.

I think it was a good call. Heck, even the British and French didn't have personell enough to deal with the German Army in 1940, Germans almost pushed the British back in the sea in France. Dunkirk was the last bastion. Germans cut them some slack at Dunkirk, a three day halt order was given.

Dolphin, the British were pretty much the only participating European country which was never invaded during WW2. Greece fell to Germany in 24 days once the Germans came to aid Mussodawg.
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