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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-07-2011, 02:39 PM
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Actually we can. I had eat both of them and I can see the differences and similarities between them.

people that insist that two very comparable objects cannot be compared are actually afraid of what the comparison result will reveal.

same case here.
You're completely missing the spirit of that idiom, but nevermind that.

Compare all you like, but do it intelligently. What do you know about the production of CoD vs. other major titles? What was CoD's production budget? What were the staffing levels at Maddox Games? How many testers did they employ? What kind of support were they given by third party companies (nVidia, AMD, Microsoft, Valve, etc.)?

If you're comparing apples and oranges and you say "I like apples better" you don't expect God to patch the oranges until they're just as good, do you? Nope, you decide you're just not that into oranges and you leave them alone.

Releasing an unfinished game is disappointing, yes. But inexcusable? To who? You could have waited to see if it was going to run well or if it was in a finished state.

How many games have you purchased that have been in need of repair upon launch? I'm willing to bet more than games than CoD.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

If you're going to buy ANY game at launch, be prepared for this stuff or stay away from it. It's sad that the game industry is like that now, but it is and it is across the board.

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Old 04-07-2011, 02:46 PM
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You're completely missing the spirit of that idiom, but nevermind that.

Compare all you like, but do it intelligently. What do you know about the production of CoD vs. other major titles? What was CoD's production budget? What were the staffing levels at Maddox Games? How many testers did they employ? What kind of support were they given by third party companies (nVidia, AMD, Microsoft, Valve, etc.)?

If you're comparing apples and oranges and you say "I like apples better" you don't expect God to patch the oranges until they're just as good, do you? Nope, you decide you're just not that into oranges and you leave them alone.
So, all you are doing here is finding them excuses for releasing a game in an unfinished, unplayable state.

It doesn't change anything to the fact that the game is unfinished and unplayable.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:01 PM
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So, all you are doing here is finding them excuses for releasing a game in an unfinished, unplayable state.

It doesn't change anything to the fact that the game is unfinished and unplayable.
I'm not giving anyone excuses.

I'm upset that the game trailers suggested that the game was running perfectly when it was in reality not doing so. But I'm not so out of touch that I think they should have released a trailer full of bugs to be completely honest with people about the current state of the game.

Luthier and Oleg have said, I believe, that they needed to push the game out of the door or it might not have been released at all. This suggests to me that the money for this project was drying up. So I understand what they did. I might be disappointed, but considering how long we've waited for the game, I'd rather wait a year for it to become playable than not have it at all.

I bought the game as soon as it was available to me on Steam. I've pre-purchased other games. I've pre-purchased plenty of games that ended up needing SIGNIFICANT patching to fix issues on lauch. It's a roll of the dice, pre-purchasing. There's no data to go on except advertising that is naturally going to be biased.

I'll be as disappointed as anyone if the game runs poorly on my machine, but I don't think I'm going to start sending the company nasty emails or post angry forum messages scolding them. Buying the game was my choice. No one forced me to do it.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:06 PM
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one might also assume that Ubisoft would have been the major obstruction in any attempt to release COD as a 'beta', perhaps it worked well for eagle dynamics who only make flight sims.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:14 PM
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Patch is a step back for me. Improved fps but now i have stuttering i did not have before. 10 - 15 fps increase.. but lots of stuttering. Shame.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:19 PM
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Patch is a step back for me. Improved fps but now i have stuttering i did not have before. 10 - 15 fps increase.. but lots of stuttering. Shame.
Try defragmenting files after each patch.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:25 PM
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Im really happy. I have got great preformace and now i can hit stuff again when they have fixed the shooting. Im just amazed how great this game is. All haters can go to hell. nobody asked you to buy the game.
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Old 04-07-2011, 04:35 PM
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Try defragmenting files after each patch.
Thanks i'm try tat, appreciate the help. It is on a SSD so it may be fruitless but i'll try it.
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Old 04-07-2011, 03:15 PM
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Is the anti eplilepc(s)y back on after the beta patch? Changing the option doesn't do Anything to the fps.
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Is the anti epilepc(s)y back on after the beta patch? Changing the option doesn't do Anything to the fps.
Because it never ever was a real issue... Got it finally? How does it feel to be fooled like a sheep?
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