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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-06-2011, 09:17 AM
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It wasn't directed against anyone, personally. I just happen to see more and more people reinforcing their claims with that.
But you're right, I should have left out my own statement about being a physicist, too. If I have to "scare away" people by claiming that I'm a "pro" on the matter (I'm not a 'pro' at all on these specific things, it's just general mechanics), I participate in the discussion in a wrong way.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:23 AM
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I just realised that it might not have been me actually, I re read the entire thread....I guess I'm getting jumpy.....my bad.

in actual fact having re read the post I will withdraw my general statement on this, I think I am on a different wavelength...excuse the pun, of course instruments do bounce in turbulence and in severe engine rough running conditions, and to be honest I was concentrating on an exessive bounce with the RPM needle (this I do feel needs a tweaking)
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:32 AM
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I was concentrating on an exessive bounce with the RPM needle (this I do feel needs a tweaking)
hmm and I have to admit you're right about that. The rpm needle bounces more than, for example, the airspeed indicator, which is, at a first glance, not really obvious to me, too (maybe it's due to different springs in the instruments?!?).

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Old 04-06-2011, 09:45 AM
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I love how people here are comparing modern light aircraft with a 1940s war time fighter built as quickly as possible to get to the front line I doubt you could even compare a flying spit to what they had back then. I.e. Regulations and limitations surviving ww2 aircraft have to meet.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:51 AM
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I love how people here are comparing modern light aircraft with a 1940s war time fighter built as quickly as possible to get to the front line I doubt you could even compare a flying spit to what they had back then. I.e. Regulations and limitations surviving ww2 aircraft have to meet.
me personally am basing it on actual experience in the Tiger moth, Stearman and (despite being post war) percival prentice, in terms of instrumentation there are no regulations regarding the instruments for aircraft like the spit, these aircraft fly on 'permit to fly' which is the most basic airworthiness certification, even the tigers and Stearmans on public transport C of A don't have the need for modern instruments because they are certified for day VFR flight only.
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:29 AM
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me personally am basing it on actual experience in the Tiger moth, Stearman and (despite being post war) percival prentice, in terms of instrumentation there are no regulations regarding the instruments for aircraft like the spit, these aircraft fly on 'permit to fly' which is the most basic airworthiness certification, even the tigers and Stearmans on public transport C of A don't have the need for modern instruments because they are certified for day VFR flight only.
Bongodriver, get used to this, in this forum guesswork based on "manuals" coming from questionable sources counts more than our personal experience as REAL pilots apparently, even the ones like us who have experience on vintage planes and warbirds..

U should see another thread where someone is trying to explain G-cutouts comparing a Lycoming with a Merlin
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Old 04-06-2011, 10:46 AM
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Bongodriver, get used to this, in this forum guesswork based on "manuals" coming from questionable sources counts more than our personal experience as REAL pilots apparently, even the ones like us who have experience on vintage planes and warbirds..

U should see another thread where someone is trying to explain G-cutouts comparing a Lycoming with a Merlin
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:12 AM
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Bongodriver, get used to this, in this forum guesswork based on "manuals" coming from questionable sources counts more than our personal experience as REAL pilots apparently, even the ones like us who have experience on vintage planes and warbirds..

U should see another thread where someone is trying to explain G-cutouts comparing a Lycoming with a Merlin
I trust the developers, having spent years on this game, along with their flight testers, one thousand times more than such statements, yes.
After all, these bouncing needles certainly didn't sneak in as bugs, the way they behave.
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The only thing I have noticed is that the compass seems to be set for North at the start of each mission no matter which way your plane is facing and as such you always have to alter it manually to suit the whiskey gauge - which is nigh on impossible as you cannot see that one clearly at all. I once found myself over France thinking it was England because of this bug
yes that is annoying, I'd like to see a key assignment for a quick sync feature....
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:55 AM
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I love how people here are comparing modern light aircraft with a 1940s war time fighter built as quickly as possible to get to the front line I doubt you could even compare a flying spit to what they had back then. I.e. Regulations and limitations surviving ww2 aircraft have to meet.
So you say that British or German engineers were such morons and the quality was so bad, and pilots didn't care at all, that instruments are not working correctly, and it is just a accident that these types of instruments and technology is still in use even today?

If I can elaborate on your though - if it is so detailed "simulated" - every single rivet in a warplane should just fall off during second flight in this sim...
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