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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Should the vegetation colours in CLIFFS OF DOVER be changed?
Yes: I would like to see a darker shade for the grass and other vegetation 226 75.33%
No: I am happy with the current colouring 74 24.67%
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:58 PM
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Yes I see I didn't choose the best pic for any conclusivity to my case,

one more, this is not shopped I assure you, I am just trying to illustrate that on a bright summer day the colurs of kent are almost luminous...


Once again, I see two or three fields, with a particular type of crop, (can't say what it is, but obviously not natural vegetation) which is light green. (by the way, not as lime green as CoD) The rest of the vegetation, in particular the natural areas, is much more emerald in colour, much darker. So I think your picture is an argument for a change in colour.

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Old 04-05-2011, 10:02 PM
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Once again, I see one field, with a particular type of crop, (can't say what it is, but obviously not natural vegetation) which is light green
actually those fields are a bright yellow, the crop is rapeseed, which perhaps adds to my case, in real life those colours are much more intense.

all I am saying is.....is this really just semantics, can we not live with the green at least for now?
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Old 04-05-2011, 10:10 PM
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The scenery over the merry old England at average fair whether day seems to be somewhat too bright and bland to be really credible.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:23 PM
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Once again, I see two or three fields, with a particular type of crop, (can't say what it is, but obviously not natural vegetation) which is light green. (by the way, not as lime green as CoD) The rest of the vegetation, in particular the natural areas, is much more emerald in colour, much darker. So I think your picture is an argument for a change in colour.
these are rape seed fields, and go yellow as they flower during the early summer. Tbh , i see most of you commenting on how England should look , but you live elsewhere in the world. what exactly qualifies you to comment on how my great land should look like? It looks fine to me.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:28 PM
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these are rape seed fields, and go yellow as they flower during the early summer. Tbh , i see most of you commenting on how England should look , but you live elsewhere in the world. what exactly qualifies you to comment on how my great land should look like? It looks fine to me.
As another Englishman....
It looks ridiculous to me!

As it has been said before, rape was not grown in the UK until well past the 50's and if you take the plkane down low, you will see grass, not rape rendering.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:31 PM
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As another Englishman....
It looks ridiculous to me!

As it has been said before, rape was not grown in the UK until well past the 50's and if you take the plkane down low, you will see grass, not rape rendering.
try altering your moniter ,works a treat for all grass enthusaists
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try altering your moniter ,works a treat for all grass enthusaists
I have an explaination for everyone. In 1940 Grass rust was obviously a big problem

http://overgrownlawn.com/lawncare,pe...ustOnYourGrass

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Turf rust is easily identified by the orange pustules on the surface of the leaves. Infected areas of lawn take on a generally yellow appearance with an orangey cast. Initial sites of infection on leaves are light yellow flecks that soon enlarge to form round to elongated pustules that rupture through the grass epidermis to release the powdery spores. Depending on the species, the spores may be red-brown, brownish yellow, bright orange or yellow.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:16 PM
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It was looking right 5 years ago. Did they throw all this out??

http://www.gamesaktuell.de/Storm-of-...1&i_id=1058760
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:41 AM
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Here's one other issue: i see many have posted pics of the landscape in question, most of them taken with P+S cams.

I do lots of landscape photography as a hobby, above and underneath water. That taught me not only to calibrate my monitor, but also my camera! Determining the hue of the colors we see outside is a very difficult task.

The only way a cam is going to record colors that are anywhere near the real colors is by shooting in raw and developing the files in a raw editor that has been calibrated for your specific cam (u do this by shooting a test chart and letting a calibration algorithm analyse the output). This essentially provides a calibrated cam.
And there still is the issue of exposure: even with a calibrated cam, your colors will look very different if you over- or underexpose a little.

P+S cams are very bad in this respect: not only are they inaccurate at recording colors, they also oversaturate the recorded colors by in-camera processing before tossing out an 8bit jpeg image with a narrow gamut.

Oleg is a photographer, he knows of all these issues. I can clearly see that he worked really hard to get the looks right in this sim, and he deserves our respect for that. This truly is a piece of art and looks way better than anything out there, sim or not.

What I'm trying to say is this: the matter is much more complex than anyone would imagine. You also want to find a setting that interacts well with the game engine itself, with the way it renders and with color range limitations.

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