Solo training in hurricane?

[Moggy]

I have a confession...I cheated and looked in my Haynes Hawker Hurricane Owners' Workshop Manual. This text is from the Hurricane Mk.II pilot notes (The Hurricane Mk.I pilot notes is very similar in what it says);

Radiator Flap Control – The airflow through the coolant radiator and
oil cooler is controlled by a lever (26) on the left hand side of the
pilot's seat. In order to release the lever for operation the thumbbutton
must be depressed.

[Les]

Thanks for the info.

[No601_Swallow]

Originally Posted by Moggy

I have a confession...I cheated...

Why am I not surprised? [mumble mumble Brighton mumble mumble Hove Albion mumble mumble Epic Fail mumble mumble].

I must say, some of these posts have me confused (not for the first time). I assumed the Rad thing was an animation bug, since in IL2 opening the rad drops the rear flap more open. In fact, I can't get the Hurri to start unless the rad is (what I think is) open.

The mixture thing is perplexing. Is this really a bug? I know that the mixture lever has to be almost all the way back, which I thought meant "lean" (as in for high altitude). I put this down to a design quirk/bug or something. Eek...

Oh soddit, I'll have to fire her up and do some more messing. Another hour of work avoidance for me...

[No601_Swallow]

Now I remember! Wasn't the throttle quadrant of the Hurri designed so that you couldn't advance the mixture past the throttle's position? I think you can see it graphically in the cockpit, as well as reflected in the "virtual quadrant" and engine settings the game will allow. Well cool.

So, for what it's worth, this is how I get the hurri in the air. Prop fully forward, throttle back to 5-10%, mixture lean, rad open. Then (with keystrokes you can do this pretty quickly), both magnetos on, fuel on main (but Moggs I take your point about the auxilliary tank), and "ignition". (I don't seem to need to prime the engine - perhaps because it's summer?) Seems to work for me. Then you've got to be patient about gradually advancing the throttle and mixture as the engine warms up.

I'm just wondering about the magneto switches. Do we leave them on? Switching them off doesn't seem to affect the engine. I always have to stop the engine by cutting the fuel off.

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

i think the slow cut out is for stopping the engine..

[Moggy]

Originally Posted by No601_Swallow

I must say, some of these posts have me confused (not for the first time). I assumed the Rad thing was an animation bug, since in IL2 opening the rad drops the rear flap more open. In fact, I can't get the Hurri to start unless the rad is (what I think is) open.

The mixture thing is perplexing. Is this really a bug? I know that the mixture lever has to be almost all the way back, which I thought meant "lean" (as in for high altitude). I put this down to a design quirk/bug or something. Eek...

Oh soddit, I'll have to fire her up and do some more messing. Another hour of work avoidance for me...

I do think the animation is the wrong way round on the Hurri's radiator flap on externals. I'm pretty sure down means open on both the flap itself and the radiator flap indicator in the cockpit itself.
The mixture lever in the Hurricane is if it is pulled back it's rich and pushed forward it's lean. I believe the reason it was like this was if you throttled down to far when the engine was lean it'd cut out, having it rich would keep the engine running.

Originally Posted by MD_Wild_Weasel

i think the slow cut out is for stopping the engine..

That's exactly what it is, it's for cutting the engine out whilst it's in idle.

Originally Posted by bob_baer

anyone has a problem with brakes? I give full power but the plane move only slightly, as if thera are the parking brakes
can anyone help me?
thanks

I get the same thing, try pressing your B key (default) or whatever you've assigned the brakes key to (mine is set to my toe brakes).

[bob_baer]

I've tried to press the brake key but it doesn't change. And there is no other brake function I've seen. Can anyone help?
thanks

[xfullboost]

Thanks for the info guys! You're the best!

[Moggy]

Originally Posted by bob_baer

I've tried to press the brake key but it doesn't change. And there is no other brake function I've seen. Can anyone help?
thanks

Two last things to suggest from me, firstly make sure your prop pitch on the Hurri is set to fine pitch and the mixture needs to be rich (on the little gauges on the left, mixture should be at the bottom of the bar). Secondly, have a little patience, the Hurri is very slow to get off the mark in my opinion.

Hope this helps.

[kingpinda]

Originally Posted by Moggy

I get the same thing, try pressing your B key (default) or whatever you've assigned the brakes key to (mine is set to my toe brakes).

its a shame really... I binded my right and left toe brakes to left and right brakes...

They don't work though in the hurricane. Presumably because the hurricane doesnt have left and right brakes but only Normal brakes. At least i think this is the case.

Now i've bind the normal axis brake to my left toe brake. weird thing is when landing and I kick in my brake it will say brake off untill halfway through and then all of a sudden it will say brake on. but my plane will topple instantly as if too much brake force is given. in il2 sturmovik while doing a 2 point landing I could VERY CAREFULLY brake a wee bit before my tailwheel settled down to the ground. Now its carefull carefull.. hmm brake still off.. carefull carefull.. brake still off. oh its on. oh my propellor in the ground. :p